I’ll admit, I don’t know much about ADS-B compliance yet, but the main thing I’d like to understand more is the cost.

Approximately how much can I expect to spend to make a Cessna 182 (56-59 model) ADS-B compliant if I found a plane that isn’t compliant?

Thanks

uAvionix TailBeacon is about $1995 and pretty quick to install if you do have a working Mode-C transponder.

I got a Garmin GTX 335 with harness, new coax and transponder antenna for just under $4k. Installed myself. Easy install.

‘68 182L

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Thank you. These numbers are good to know while I consider an aircraft for sale without ADS-B.

58Skylane wrote:Thank you. These numbers are good to know while I consider an aircraft for sale without ADS-B.

The other question you need to ask yourself is whether you actually NEED ADS-B equipage. If you never need to go to A,B or C airspace, or higher than 10, 000 feet while greater than 2500 feet from dirt, you may not need it.

MTV

In round numbers: $2000 for uAvionix, a little more for the Garmin in-line thing, $5000 for transponder or panel-mounted UAT, $7000? for the Lynx.

If you have an old transponder, talk with the avionics shop about whether the uAvionics or Garmin in-line thing will burn it up. AIUI, they’re intended for digital transponders.

Don't forget to add in the labor for the Uavionix. I threw in a tailbeacon in my 56, the screws and mounting on the stinger were different and an additional ground was installed for solid electrical current, added a few hundred bux above the $2000 shown here.

mtv wrote:

58Skylane wrote:Thank you. These numbers are good to know while I consider an aircraft for sale without ADS-B.

The other question you need to ask yourself is whether you actually NEED ADS-B equipage. If you never need to go to A,B or C airspace, or higher than 10, 000 feet while greater than 2500 feet from dirt, you may not need it.

MTV

I thought about that. I’m sure most of my flying will be outside those airspace’s but I’ll probably end up wanting to go into Billings, Boise, Salt Lake area and even Southern California area once in a while.

Ideally I’d like to find a plane already equipped with ADS-B. Looks like the cost of these ADS-B units can range from $2k to $4k+. If I find a plane I like and it doesn’t have ADS-B, depending on budget at the time I’ll probably just go the cheapest route. But for now, I just wanted to see what most are spending on these units including install.

My experience goes back to the transponder requirement, but if you go low they don't know, or care.

You also need to be aware that by complying, you will be tracked by the gummit even in anonymous mode, which turns out isn't. In addition, you have just voluntarily given them the hooks for automatically levying user fees, to say nothing about automatic code enforcement. RESIST!

“If you never need to go to A,B or C airspace, or higher than 10, 000 feet“
I’m thinking class D airspace too?

C180_guy wrote:You also need to be aware that by complying, you will be tracked by the gummit even in anonymous mode, which turns out isn't. In addition, you have just voluntarily given them the hooks for automatically levying user fees, to say nothing about automatic code enforcement. RESIST!

Is this actually happening?

ZPilot wrote:Is this actually happening?

Nope. Wasn't with mode S either.

The GDL-82 is more labor to install but is the only certified solution I know of that is actually anonymous in a certified airplane. I would expect to be into it $2500 before it's done.

ADS-B is not required in class D airspace. It is required only in airspace where transponders were previously required, so A, E above 10K (except in Alaska or within 2,500 feet of rocks), C, B, and mode C veil around B.

And if that's not enough to think about if you are flying thru Canada, and once they have mandated ADS-B country wide, unless I'm mistaken (and if I am I'm sure A1skinner or one of my other Canadian friends will correct me) you'll find you need a 1090 MHz unit (more expensive and no anonymous mode) and not a 978 MHz (cheaper and with an anonymous mode) unit.

Mexico or the Bahamas might be the same way, I'm sure those that fly there will chime in.

Sucks for sure. Especially since it's from the same government agency that allowed the 737 Max to continue flying when they knew more crashes were coming- follow the money I guess.

Is no electrical system and never had one still legal with a phone call to D and light gun?

Barnstormer wrote:Mexico or the Bahamas might be the same way, I'm sure those that fly there will chime in

Correct. Mexico requires 1090 beginning Jan 1.

contactflying wrote:Is no electrical system and never had one still legal with a phone call to D and light gun?

Yep, know a few folks that do this to get in and out of D airspace when needed.

Thanks Troy. Good to hear.