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Re: Air Park living on the cheap

Deckofficer, how's the progress going on your search for an airplane/instructor?
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CamTom12 wrote:Deckofficer, how's the progress going on your search for an airplane/instructor?


Thanks for asking. It is the windy season down here and about 1/2 the days the wind is higher than I ever encountered when taking lessons 34 years ago. I am still looking everyday in Barnstormers and meeting the local pilots at social functions. No leads yet on a CFI in the area that could teach in a plane owned by the student.
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So start the learning process in a rental.
I don't know what kind of airplane you're looking to buy, but getting the basics down in a C150, C172, or Cherokee is a good start for any kind of flying.

I used to agree with people who said it was best to start from scratch in a taildragger, but nowadays I think that maybe it's best to start in a nosedragger. When you're trying to get down the basics of crosswind ops, or come back tired from a long hot solo cross country, the last thing a low-timer needs is the added complication of trying to land a taildragger in a challenging crosswind. Esp in windy country, which your new airpark sounds like.
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hotrod180 wrote:So start the learning process in a rental.
I don't know what kind of airplane you're looking to buy, but getting the basics down in a C150, C172, or Cherokee is a good start for any kind of flying.

I used to agree with people who said it was best to start from scratch in a taildragger, but nowadays I think that maybe it's best to start in a nosedragger. When you're trying to get down the basics of crosswind ops, or come back tired from a long hot solo cross country, the last thing a low-timer needs is the added complication of trying to land a taildragger in a challenging crosswind. Esp in windy country, which your new airpark sounds like.


I do have 37 hours in a 150, 34 years ago. I plan to stay with a high wing tricycle gear plane like a CH-701, 750 or Savannah. Would prefer future lessons in my own plane rather than the $100~$150 hour rental. I would hope a CFI could sign me off again for solo in Deming, which is 29 miles from my airpark, keep the plane in my hangar and fly to Deming for lessons.
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When the winds are low, my neighbor Steve gets more airtime than any of us.

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Many of the "less expensive" airplanes that are LSA-eligible have tailwheels, and I would urge you to NOT rule them out. For the first 100 years of flight, most pilots learned to fly tailwheel airplanes, so it cannot be that hard, right? (Disclaimer - I've got all of 4 hours in tailwheel airplanes now, having recently purchased a 1965 Citabria 7ECA. It's a LOT of fun!)

I found one on Barnstormers that might get your attention, especially this one: a '65 Aeronca 7AC for $17,500. (I know it says it's a TAC, but that's a typo in the ad.)
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The Aeronca 65TAC was the civilian version of WW2's L3 Grasshopper. I think that's what advertised in your link.

FWIW the 7AC was way out of production by 1965. The 65 hp 7AC was produced in the late forties.
The 7EC was produced in the 50's with a C90 Continental. It evolved into the O-200 & 235 powered 7ECA's.
Bellanca did make a 7ACA in the early 1970's, which was powered by a 60hp Franklin 2-banger. Not very popular
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hotrod180 wrote:So start the learning process in a rental.
I don't know what kind of airplane you're looking to buy, but getting the basics down in a C150, C172, or Cherokee is a good start for any kind of flying.

I used to agree with people who said it was best to start from scratch in a taildragger, but nowadays I think that maybe it's best to start in a nosedragger. When you're trying to get down the basics of crosswind ops, or come back tired from a long hot solo cross country, the last thing a low-timer needs is the added complication of trying to land a taildragger in a challenging crosswind. Esp in windy country, which your new airpark sounds like.


I do have 37 hours in a 150, 34 years ago. I plan to stay with a high wing tricycle gear plane like a CH-701, 750 or Savannah. Would prefer future lessons in my own plane rather than the $100~$150 hour rental. I would hope a CFI could sign me off again for solo in Deming, which is 29 miles from my airpark, keep the plane in my hangar and fly to Deming for lessons.
I thought maybe you bought the S6ES in Ohio. It's off the radar anyway so may have been sold. I sure was a nice airplane. I'm kinda off that one because there are dozens of E-LSA registered S6ES out there and I can work and sign off on those with my current LSRM certification.
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Didn't buy the S6ES, still in the market. Did make the long drive for some more belongings and another car, the one in my avatar. Planned to drive the T into Columbus but after 1 mile noticed a radiator leak. Pin hole in the lower tank, but only leaks under pressure. The next day (today) loosened the radiator cap so pressure wouldn't build and drove to Columbus. On the return trip due to low oil pan to road clearance, the oil plug worked it's way out and lost all my oil on a dirt road. Miller's Automotive Repair was where I was coming from so got a ride back and bought oil and a drain plug to return to the oil-less T left on the road. Losing oil like that from the drain plug while driving makes a mess, so parked it off of the apron because my hangar and apron concrete is unblemished with no stains. Pretty careful previous owners, that many years and no ICE leaking its internal contents on deck. In front of the T is my electric car, too bad electric aircraft have a limited range, I would like "plug and play".

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D.O.

That is a BITCHIN ride! Or as they would say in New England, "wickid pissah"!

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G44 wrote:D.O.

That is a BITCHIN ride! Or as they would say in New England, "wickid pissah"!

Kurt


It is a hoot to drive Kurt. 526 hp in a ride that tips the scales at 1790 lbs. Made another trip to get the last car, a 2011 Cadillac CTS-V with the 556 hp supercharged V8 and a manual 6 speed, one of 194 built that year. Keeping the miles low on this one, 5 years old now and 8000 miles. The dealer in Sacramento that I bought it from had a record year for V deliveries, receiving 5 for the 2011 run, 4 automatics and one stick. The stick was his first delivery but last sold. Cadillac no longer offers the stick in the V types, so like the 426 hemi in the Mopar products of the late 60's, my hopes is a future collectible. It was Jay Leno's top pick for a future collectible, with him commenting that 30 years from now nobody would even remember a Caddy with a clutch. Clutch pedal pressure is light because instead of stiff pressure plate springs to handle the torque, the good engineers just went with a multi disc clutch for increased surface area. Clutch is more than twice as stiff in the 427 Track-T with its large, single disc clutch.

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Problem is I might be too old to last long enough for the clutch version of the CTS-V to become a collectible. Maybe I need to find a younger pilot with a plane that I want to trade for it.
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Man, I love the look of that hangar. Needs a plane, of course, but I am completely jealous of all the space.

The cars are pretty sweet too. Nice collection.
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Gents, in hopes of getting some like minded neighbors, a home and large hangar here is up for sale at 49WA. I have no association with the owners and they are not pilots. Cougar Mountain is a great place and if you'd like to talk about the airpark or have questions, please feel free to call me at 36O522047l. HOA fees are $300 a year. Epic views of Rainer.

Current listing: http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhom ... 3535-97947

Old listing (pics): https://www.redfin.com/WA/Yelm/19531-Co ... e/15733672
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Update: not currently listed, but I recommend keeping it on your radar if interested.
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Thanks Slow18!

I for one, really have no desire to move to that part of the country but there are others that may.

I recently went on a month long excursion to the SW looking at various properties. All I can say is WOW!! It seems there are basically two types of these properties, the one's owned but the very well to do, with mini mega mansions required to be build/owned. Or the other tyoes that are a hodge podge of hangars and homes. I did find a couple I am really interested in that may fit my budget. So I will continue my search.

I did visit the airpark that deck officer is at, but he never responded to a pm I send to unfortunately I was not able to meet with him. Definitely a 'different' type of airpark but if one is comfortable living this close to the border it wouldn't be bad. Very little in the way of amenities there and not something my spousal unit wants to entertain.
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This one may be right in the middle but not much of a "airpark community"-

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19985234 ... r-City-UT/
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WWhunter,

I'm sorry I missed the PM and your visit. Did you get a chance to talk to any of the folks here? Today at noon 72* and blue skies, typical this time of year. Being so close to the border is a plus in my book. If your wife would have liked the air parks here would you consider the area?
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Yes, I could have easily handled it there, I am easy to please. I was supposed to look at someone's hangar/home but the timing didn't work out. I drove around the airpark and looked the area over and I really didn't see anything that would concern me. The one owner, coming into the airpark, sure had quite an assortment of 'cool' stuff!! My kind of guy! LOL
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WWhunter wrote:Bob,

Yes, I could have easily handled it there, I am easy to please. I was supposed to look at someone's hangar/home but the timing didn't work out. I drove around the airpark and looked the area over and I really didn't see anything that would concern me. The one owner, coming into the airpark, sure had quite an assortment of 'cool' stuff!! My kind of guy! LOL


So that missing someone visiting these 3 air parks doesn't happen again, here is my number 909 223-1337. I should have posted it to this thread from the beginning.

Good luck in finding your perfect air park home. For the price range of $50~$200K I think our 3 parks offer the best bang for the buck.
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SixTwoLeemer wrote:This one may be right in the middle but not much of a "airpark community"-

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19985234 ... r-City-UT/


I've seen those hangars, very nice, however I don't think long term residence is allowed. Which stinks for that price.
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