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Avionics & Engine Theft - What can you do ?

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Re: Avionics & Engine Theft - What can you do ?

Could the manufacturer program that thing so that if it were to be stolen, the victim could notify Garmin and it could eventually be rendered inoperative.


Even more immediate solution would be a routine that removal would require a password for the unit to be reactivated. My radios in my cars since the early 1990's have had this feature. If the battery died or if the radio was removed I had to enter my code to revive it.

Didn't stop the idiots from stealing stuff but I had two break ins where other stuff was taken and the radio was not touched. Most thieves are not complete idiots they know what is marketable and what is not.
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Denali wrote:...I guess the focus maybe should be on wireless cameras that stream to the internet if an intrusion is noted. Silent motion/therma/sound detection alarms can alert the owner via their cell phone of an intrusion.



Of course, the downside (there always seems to be at least one) is some IoT builders won't allow users to reset the factory default, that is, if users even attempt to do that. :( Better not complain though, or the PRoC Inc. will sue you for crimes against the State. [-X

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Just put one of these sumbitches in the back of the plane with a tarp over it and a Snap-On tool box behind it. When they crawl in for the tool box...

I suggested this to a friend who's hangar had been broken into, and he liked the idea so much he started bidding for them on ebay. After a couple days he came to his senses...probably a bit of liability involved.
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Hammer wrote:Image

Just put one of these sumbitches in the back of the plane with a tarp over it and a Snap-On tool box behind it. When they crawl in for the tool box...


Which one, the leg trap, or the angry old country boy who looks like he'd shoot you for looking at his daughter wrong? :lol: I think both would be effective deterrents.
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When my airplane was in its T-hangar at Fort Collins Downtown, we had a series of hangar thefts--someone had left a pass-through door open down the row, and the thief jumped the dividing walls, which only went up to 8'. Several GPSs and headsets were stolen out of unlocked airplanes, and my oxygen bottle was stolen off my storage cabinet. For awhile, I seriously considered putting up an electric fence wire at the top of the walls--wouldn't that have given a thief a jolt!

My anti-theft plans were thwarted when they closed the airport. My current T-hangar at Greeley has walls that go to the ceiling, and while it's not impossible to get in (big bolt cutters would probably clip the padlock), it's less vulnerable than the old hangar was.

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Re: Avionics & Engine Theft - What can you do ?

I just had the battery and terminals cut out of my jeep. My plane is too close for comfort by like 100', so I'm researching this stuff too. I'm trying to figure out how to notify me a half mile away while I sleep without Internet or anything. I figure pepper spray traps might be legal and a camera to convict them and possibly a canon that blasts with an electric charge to wake me up a half mile away to come running with the big guns.
I'm not sure what is legal yet but they do sell pepper spray on motion detectors so that's promising.
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Is your plane in a hangar? Where is Mudville? Thanks
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wyomingiswindy wrote:I just had the battery and terminals cut out of my jeep. My plane is too close for comfort by like 100', so I'm researching this stuff too. I'm trying to figure out how to notify me a half mile away while I sleep without Internet or anything. I figure pepper spray traps might be legal and a camera to convict them and possibly a canon that blasts with an electric charge to wake me up a half mile away to come running with the big guns.
I'm not sure what is legal yet but they do sell pepper spray on motion detectors so that's promising.

I think it's illegal to set a man-trap of any kind? Maybe your laws are different.

This thread cracks me up. Avionics, sure. But has anyone tried to remove an engine in the dark, in total science, in under 30 minutes, while wearing a balaclava?? It sounds like a reality TV show right, airplane engine repo...? hah. If your aircraft is parked somewhere so remote that this kind of theft is a real possibility, there's only one security system which is light enough to take flying with you everywhere...
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TommyN wrote:Is your plane in a hangar? Where is Mudville? Thanks
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Curious fella. Mudville is not a town but a description of the terrain 2/3rds of the year. Hangar yes. Would you like an exact schematic of the security system? Wyomingiswindy is because I created the name while hiding from the wind in Wheatland. I'm not really sure where I am. I can only tell you where I come from.



Entrapment isn't always illegal. Nobody will get hurt. Shock n awe baby. They might go through withdrawal sitting in jail though, and then retaliate when they get out.
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I have also been researching various options due to several break ins in the immediate area. One place is about a half mile up the road from me. He has signs out asking for the thieves to return what they stole. Apparently they even stole his game cameras.
The rumors I have been told are that the thieves have been 'scoping out' woods and lake cabins for vacancies. They come in with a grew and empty the house. Power and phone lines cut and from what I was told, one house set afire.

I think I posted on here earlier this year about a set of floats and a float trailer stolen from the seaplane base this spring.

The cameras I have been looking at are game cameras that will send you a text/email whenever they are triggers. Several manufacturers offer them but the only one I looked at locally was the Moultrie. Anyone fellow hunters on here used one?

The Bushnell is recommended on this review: http://www.besttrailcamerareviews.org/w ... il-camera/
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WWhunter wrote:The cameras I have been looking at are game cameras that will send you a text/email whenever they are triggers. Several manufacturers offer them but the only one I looked at locally was the Moultrie. Anyone fellow hunters on here used one?

The Bushnell is recommended on this review: http://www.besttrailcamerareviews.org/w ... il-camera/


I have used the older Moultrie ones and a Bushnell one, but I don't own them. It would be hard to say I noticed a huge difference and both took a reasonably photo provided the target wasn't moving too fast, and at night provided the target wasn't moving much at all. With every brand, if you leave them out in the weather long enough they always seem to break eventually.

The set seems to be the main thing, keeping them well placed so you don't get lots of photos of trees moving about (for the movement sensitive kind only), else photos of small animals crittering about, photos of birds coming and going from their nest, or photos of spiders building in front of your lens.

The one thing that surprised me (based on my buddies experience) is how seldom people notice a game camera - even if there are signs warning trespassers of cameras on the property. Provided the cameras are above the line of sight and kinda camouflaged in colour - people just don't seem to spot them. They have taken untold photos of trespassers coming and going.
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WWhunter wrote:I have also been researching various options due to several break ins in the immediate area. One place is about a half mile up the road from me. He has signs out asking for the thieves to return what they stole. Apparently they even stole his game cameras.
The rumors I have been told are that the thieves have been 'scoping out' woods and lake cabins for vacancies. They come in with a grew and empty the house. Power and phone lines cut and from what I was told, one house set afire.

I think I posted on here earlier this year about a set of floats and a float trailer stolen from the seaplane base this spring.

The cameras I have been looking at are game cameras that will send you a text/email whenever they are triggers. Several manufacturers offer them but the only one I looked at locally was the Moultrie. Anyone fellow hunters on here used one?

The Bushnell is recommended on this review: http://www.besttrailcamerareviews.org/w ... il-camera/


Why not contract with one of the security companies that monitor 24/7/365? http://www.allied24.com/ At least in the lower 48 this seems to be an option everyplace I've hangared in the last few years. The bear trap proposal (or the mean lookin' guy holding it) would be very satisfying... like putting land mines in a melon patch in Afghanistan. But I doubt satisfaction would outlast the wrongful death judgements. A less gory method is probably necessary to pass legal liability muster in the US... We are, after all, known at the world's epi-center for personal injury liability awards. :)
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I can't remember what website, but there was a guy who made a remote switch to turn on his electric heat to aircraft by using his phone app. I'm sure there's got to be a way similar using motion detection and cameras running off solar and battery power and live stream to your phone. I know with today's tech and home security there's got to be a simple way. The loud alarm deal is simple, hook up a alarm screech speaker to a trip wire, someplace you know a perp would have to walk. Trip wire we used in the Army is stupid simple thin wire.
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