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Building a New Hangar

Really just a curious question right now.

How much would one expect to pay for a hangar to be built for a Cessna 182 (say a 30’ wide x 40’ deep)?

I know the options can be endless, but I’m just looking for the cheapest route but still insulated with heat at minimum. And concrete floor.
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We are trying to move to the US and it looks like at most small airports if you want a hangar, you are going to have to build your own. Some preliminary research indicates that prices on building materials have skyrocketed, especially concrete. Then there is the problem of finding tradesmen to work on the project in semi-rural locations.
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You're going to have to use a sawzall to get a C182 into a 30' wide hangar.

Costs are 'it depends'. You can quote an R&M steel building kit, and a Higher Power door easy enough (for example). Shipping from manufacturer to where ever you are depends on a lot of factors. You have to hire a local team to build it.

Complexities are things like the leasing of airport land. We got jacked around quite a bit by the airport manager who was forcing us to a less than ideal location, and in the permitting process were informed that because of that location (that we didn't want) we needed one wall to be a fire barrier (big bump in price).

Getting utilities hooked up and paid for is also tougher than it seems.

We decided in the end that buying an already built hangar was going to be WAY less headache and cost.
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This might be common knowledge, but it surprised me: Some airports take ownership of the hangar after the land lease expires. You can't buy the land on the airport, so you have to lease it. If the lease isn't renewed, you loose your hangar. Standard practice at many airports.

Just something to verify before spending your money.

As for the cost of building...that seems to be very dependent on where you want to build. I know a guy who owns lots of hangars, and in his experience most hangars that come up for sale are priced well above construction costs. Of course for that you get a known quantity and instant gratification, while there are some unknown variables and time delays in building your own.
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You need to be way more specific in order to give a ballpark price. Steel, stick frame or block construction? Foundations for steel buildings will normally cost 25-30% more because of the additional work involved. Insulation and if so, what kind? Batt, blow in, spray foam? Interior going to be finished? Sheetrock, metal, other? Radiant floor heating or wall mount style? Metal roofing or asphalt shingles? Bathroom? Interior and exterior lighting? Floor drain or catch basin? What type of door also plays into cost as well. Some doors require a beefed up truss to help carry the weight of the door itself. Some do not.
I build hangars for a living and this is just the beginning point of the questions that need to be addressed in order to get a rough idea of cost.
You can PM me if you want more info. I’d be happy to share my experiences on what works and what doesn’t.
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aftCG wrote:You're going to have to use a sawzall to get a C182 into a 30' wide hangar.

Costs are 'it depends'. You can quote an R&M steel building kit, and a Higher Power door easy enough (for example). Shipping from manufacturer to where ever you are depends on a lot of factors. You have to hire a local team to build it.

Complexities are things like the leasing of airport land. We got jacked around quite a bit by the airport manager who was forcing us to a less than ideal location, and in the permitting process were informed that because of that location (that we didn't want) we needed one wall to be a fire barrier (big bump in price).

Getting utilities hooked up and paid for is also tougher than it seems.

We decided in the end that buying an already built hangar was going to be WAY less headache and cost.

You are correct. I meant to say 40’ wide.

I’m considering Cody, Wyoming and there are no hangars available at this time and no indication when one might be available. They are all privately owned at the moment. Ramp parking is free, though. LOL
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Hammer wrote:This might be common knowledge, but it surprised me: Some airports take ownership of the hangar after the land lease expires. You can't buy the land on the airport, so you have to lease it. If the lease isn't renewed, you loose your hangar. Standard practice at many airports.

Just something to verify before spending your money.

As for the cost of building...that seems to be very dependent on where you want to build. I know a guy who owns lots of hangars, and in his experience most hangars that come up for sale are priced well above construction costs. Of course for that you get a known quantity and instant gratification, while there are some unknown variables and time delays in building your own.

Very good to know. Thank you.
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akgreg wrote:You need to be way more specific in order to give a ballpark price. Steel, stick frame or block construction? Foundations for steel buildings will normally cost 25-30% more because of the additional work involved. Insulation and if so, what kind? Batt, blow in, spray foam? Interior going to be finished? Sheetrock, metal, other? Radiant floor heating or wall mount style? Metal roofing or asphalt shingles? Bathroom? Interior and exterior lighting? Floor drain or catch basin? What type of door also plays into cost as well. Some doors require a beefed up truss to help carry the weight of the door itself. Some do not.
I build hangars for a living and this is just the beginning point of the questions that need to be addressed in order to get a rough idea of cost.
You can PM me if you want more info. I’d be happy to share my experiences on what works and what doesn’t.
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I figured as much. A lot to think about. I’d be very happy with bare minimum construction with concrete floor, metal building/roof, electricity for lights/heaters and sliding doors. Just enough to keep the plane out of the weather.

I’m just looking for a ballpark figure plus or minus $5k or so.
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$80,000 should be a close guess. Local guy having a hangar built to slightly smaller dimensions for around 60k. Airport covenants required it to be an engineered building so that cost an extra 5k. The hangar is also equipped with to roll-up doors for hangar doors that might not be to some peoples liking.
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I just had a 52x60x14 hangar built with a 46x13'6" diamond bifold on it. Went with 2x8 poles and pole building. Blew the insulation in. The pole building and door were $85k, and concrete was another $25k. Yours being smaller and a simpler door will bring the cost down, and being in the US generally makes it cheaper as well. All in finished I'm at 184k, but it's my AME shop, so its finished more then just a storage hangar.
I think the estimate of $80k above should get you close.
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You might consider getting a list of hangar owners from the airport manager and then sending letters of inquiry to them. Just because someone hasn't listed their hangar doesn't mean they wouldn't sell if approached.

I found my hangar by asking around and managing to ask the right person...it wasn't listed as being for sale but the owner was pretty happy to get out of it. It's just a T-hangar, but it does everything I need it to do and it was a LOT cheaper than building a stand-alone hangar.
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40 wide isn't enough for a 182, especially on a building your going to finish the interior walls on. 12" wingtip clearance at each end. Limits you to a 36' wide bifold. On a pole design anyway. All the dinged wingtips will more than justify the cost going bigger than 40
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I have a 40 x 40 at my ranch with sliding out of the way doors. Plenty wide but you cannot get careless when backing it in. We are looking to selling and moving. A pol;e structure is the cheapest. Just a pole barn with sides covered. With concrete, one man door and insulation your at 34 bucks a square foot. Oh forgot to mention you need to add the hangar door. About an extra 8 to 10 grand

46 x 40 is $62,560 plus 9 for the door. Lets say 72 g's. Oh do you want electricity
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Hammer wrote:You might consider getting a list of hangar owners from the airport manager and then sending letters of inquiry to them. Just because someone hasn't listed their hangar doesn't mean they wouldn't sell if approached.

I found my hangar by asking around and managing to ask the right person...it wasn't listed as being for sale but the owner was pretty happy to get out of it. It's just a T-hangar, but it does everything I need it to do and it was a LOT cheaper than building a stand-alone hangar.

That’s a good idea. There’s only 24 small private hangars at Cody. So I would imagine it’ll be easy to get to know everyone and let them know I’m interested in a hangar.

2 planes are currently on the waiting list at Choice Aviation for over a year now.
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qmdv wrote:I have a 40 x 40 at my ranch with sliding out of the way doors. Plenty wide but you cannot get careless when backing it in. We are looking to selling and moving. A pol;e structure is the cheapest. Just a pole barn with sides covered. With concrete, one man door and insulation your at 34 bucks a square foot. Oh forgot to mention you need to add the hangar door. About an extra 8 to 10 grand

46 x 40 is $62,560 plus 9 for the door. Lets say 72 g's. Oh do you want electricity

Plumbing too? I know a pretty good plumber.

How much for your 182? Lets work a deal here.
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All good information above.

First thing I'd do is contact the COdy Airport Manager's office and ask for some information:

1) Are there hangars for sale on the Cody airport?
2) Are there lease lots available for lease to build on?
3) What are the lease fees for a lot suitable for say, a 50 x 50 foot hangar?
4) Ask them to provide a list of lease conditions/covenants for the Cody airport.
5) Ask them if they have contact information for any construction outfits who've built on the airport recently
6) Request a copy of the process for permitting construction there.
7) Request information on utilities to hangars, as in cost to install, availability, minimum monthly fees, etc.

Once you get that stuff pinned down, you'll have a better idea of what your recurring costs are going to be.

Here in Bozeman, people are building hangars on spec. So, they're obviously convinced they'll make their money back.

I'd definitely go with insulation and heat in a climate like Cody. You won't believe how nice it is to work on the plane and just go fly it any time of the year when it's heated.

And, I'll second the notion of a decent size door. Build something at least a little bigger than you think you can live with.

STAY AWAY from sliding doors in a place like Cody......you'll learn to hate them, believe me.

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A1Skinner wrote:I just had a 52x60x14 hangar built with a 46x13'6" diamond bifold on it. Went with 2x8 poles and pole building. Blew the insulation in. The pole building and door were $85k, and concrete was another $25k. Yours being smaller and a simpler door will bring the cost down, and being in the US generally makes it cheaper as well. All in finished I'm at 184k, but it's my AME shop, so its finished more then just a storage hangar.
I think the estimate of $80k above should get you close.

I’ve been given a list of 5 local contractors that have built hangars at Cody, I’ll contact them next time I’m home.
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mtv wrote:All good information above.

First thing I'd do is contact the COdy Airport Manager's office and ask for some information:

1) Are there hangars for sale on the Cody airport?
2) Are there lease lots available for lease to build on?
3) What are the lease fees for a lot suitable for say, a 50 x 50 foot hangar?
4) Ask them to provide a list of lease conditions/covenants for the Cody airport.
5) Ask them if they have contact information for any construction outfits who've built on the airport recently
6) Request a copy of the process for permitting construction there.
7) Request information on utilities to hangars, as in cost to install, availability, minimum monthly fees, etc.

Once you get that stuff pinned down, you'll have a better idea of what your recurring costs are going to be.

Here in Bozeman, people are building hangars on spec. So, they're obviously convinced they'll make their money back.

I'd definitely go with insulation and heat in a climate like Cody. You won't believe how nice it is to work on the plane and just go fly it any time of the year when it's heated.

And, I'll second the notion of a decent size door. Build something at least a little bigger than you think you can live with.

STAY AWAY from sliding doors in a place like Cody......you'll learn to hate them, believe me.

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Great information. Thanks! I’ll go over all of the above next time I’m home.

There are lots available and I was given 5 local contractors familiar with the process.

You’re right about the insulation and sliding door. I actually now remember a thread or discussion some time ago about sliding doors in snow/ice country. Not a good mixture. LOL
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qmdv wrote:I have a 40 x 40 at my ranch with sliding out of the way doors. Plenty wide but you cannot get careless when backing it in. We are looking to selling and moving. A pol;e structure is the cheapest. Just a pole barn with sides covered. With concrete, one man door and insulation your at 34 bucks a square foot. Oh forgot to mention you need to add the hangar door. About an extra 8 to 10 grand

46 x 40 is $62,560 plus 9 for the door. Lets say 72 g's. Oh do you want electricity

Plumbing too? I know a pretty good plumber.

How much for your 182? Lets work a deal here.


Pay the right price for the ranch and you can have it all.
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58Skylane wrote:You’re right about the insulation and sliding door. I actually now remember a thread or discussion some time ago about sliding doors in snow/ice country. Not a good mixture. LOL


Guess it depends...I have sliding doors and it's never been a problem. Maybe I'm just lucky.

Insulation would be great, but a hangar without insulation is a whole lot nicer than no hangar at all. I was going to insulate mine, but I've come to the conclusion that it's not worth the money.

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