CamTom12 wrote:Why would they move it?

Because Nevada is charging way too much and raising demands big time. Google it.

http://burners.me/2015/08/19/burning-man-could-be-moving-to-utah/

Akt

Wild. I had no idea the politics were that heavy, especially with the inner factions of burners.

aktahoe1 wrote:

CamTom12 wrote:Why would they move it?

Because Nevada is charging way too much and raising demands big time. Google it.

http://burners.me/2015/08/19/burning-man-could-be-moving-to-utah/

Akt

Could be this too; http://www.alternet.org/drugs/nevada-sh ... tate?sc=fb

Mister701 wrote: Bill, are you going to be at Copperstate this year? Oh, and just post some pictures of West Hollywood Saturday Night for me. That's close enough.

I kinda doubt it.

Scolopax wrote:I flew in last year. It was definitely the most interesting assembly of humanity that I have ever seen. Bring the good blue masking tape to seal up every hole in your plane. The dust wants to go with you when you leave.

If your mind is open, the event is definitely worth a visit some time. If your mind is closed, and you have it in your head how others should live their lives it's probably best to stay away.

Exactly.

NineThreeKilo wrote:

Scolopax wrote:I flew in last year. It was definitely the most interesting assembly of humanity that I have ever seen. Bring the good blue masking tape to seal up every hole in your plane. The dust wants to go with you when you leave.

If your mind is open, the event is definitely worth a visit some time. If your mind is closed, and you have it in your head how others should live their lives it's probably best to stay away.

Exactly.

Speaking of having an open mind, nice assumption about those of us who aren't interested in Burning Man . . . .

Burning Man in Utah? Cue the music to The Odd Couple.

I like the Alvord Desert idea. Pot's already legal in Oregon anyway.

You know, we may have a couple of nice remote dry lake beds here in screwy goofball California that would be ideal for this type of event... and conveniently located for the particular flora and fauna that attend.

Hell we've already got a smaller bite-sized version of Burning Man where people live 24/7/365 called Slab City just east of the Salton Sea. Burning Man could just be incorporated into Slab City as their annual "open house"

Racetrack Dry Lake up near Death Valley would be a perfect site.
Broadwell Dry Lake out in San Bernardino County would be a perfect site.

Wait... I got it... there's a place called Giant Rock which is on a dry lake less than an hour outside of the greater Los Angeles populated area. It even had a restaurant under the giant rock, and stories of alien contact with desert hermits. Perfect .

Instead of the local government being difficult about it, I think in California there would be competition between Senator Boxer, Senator Feinstein, and the West Hollywood Chamber of Commerce.... to see who could sponsor it first.

CAVU wrote:

NineThreeKilo wrote:

Scolopax wrote:I flew in last year. It was definitely the most interesting assembly of humanity that I have ever seen. Bring the good blue masking tape to seal up every hole in your plane. The dust wants to go with you when you leave.

If your mind is open, the event is definitely worth a visit some time. If your mind is closed, and you have it in your head how others should live their lives it's probably best to stay away.

Exactly.

Speaking of having an open mind, nice assumption about those of us who aren't interested in Burning Man . . . .

If you read "if you aren't interested in Burning Man, your mind is closed" in to my statement, you read it wrong. In no way is that what was articulated. The point is that if you have an idea in your head about how others should live, you probably will not have fun, because you are pretty much guaranteed to see people doing things that are not compliant with that idea.

California already has one:

Wasteland Weekend:
The World’s Largest Post-Apocalyptic Festival

Mad Max theme, lots of movieland creatives

Lots of blowing things up and shooting things.

In desert outside of California City.
September 24-27 this year.

I just don't like crowds of any type.

--Bill

Yes, my error, no more shooting, no real guns, "cap guns ok, but can't be loaded at any time". Bows only loaded at the archery range.
I assume the gun range is gone.

Funny you mention that, one of our local airport guys (Hollywood FX/explosives type) is going to Wasteland Weekend, they were outfitting a dune buggy with spikes and spears for the Mad Max theme stuff. He was going to put the propane firing replica MA-2 50 cal. gun on top of the buggy but he was afraid he'd never make it past the entry gate and local LEO (there's supposed to be an orange band on the barrel of that replica... but there ain't). Next year we may try to mount the .50 in the door of my 172 and fly overhead making lotsa noise.

No matter where BM is located local governments are going to do their best to make money off it. I think it has peaked as a festival and is in slow decline. Maybe if it declines enough it will be worth going to again.

svanarts wrote: No matter where BM is located local governments are going to do their best to make money off it. ......

Another perspective on this is how much money do local public agencies spend because of BM? An EMT friend of mine opened my eyes to this, when he talked about how much the local EMT service & emergency room went into the red because of medical emergencies (usually drug related) at the Gorge outdoor concert venue in eastern Washington. He thought that they need to put a "medical response" tax on concert / festival tickets. Looking at photos / videos from BM, I'd say that similar chemical adventures there might be a possibility.

Well I survived another burning man. Though this time my plane is a lot dustier than the last couple times.



I barely had to vacuum it out the last couple of times I went. One day with a dust storm was all it took to get it this dusty. I had to take the seats out to dump the dust off them. It was worse than the picture shows.

This will probably be my last trip in a plane to burning man until a new team runs the airport. The airport is no longer representative of the event and is now run primarily as a commercial portal. Don't let that discourage you from going if you are thinking about it. It's still an interesting week unlike anything you are likely to experience.

wow that is a lot of dust. did you tape up all the door seams, pitot, static and whatnot? what was the largest plane you saw land there?

Looks to be a pretty interesting experience:

TruckTent wrote:Well I survived another burning man. Though this time my plane is a lot dustier than the last couple times.



I barely had to vacuum it out the last couple of times I went. One day with a dust storm was all it took to get it this dusty. I had to take the seats out to dump the dust off them. It was worse than the picture shows.

This will probably be my last trip in a plane to burning man until a new team runs the airport. The airport is no longer representative of the event and is now run primarily as a commercial portal. Don't let that discourage you from going if you are thinking about it. It's still an interesting week unlike anything you are likely to experience.

I hope you didn't pull carb heat during the run-up!

Looks like a great place to breakin new cylinders. No glazing. Who needs mineral oil? Just pull carb heat or alternate air for the first flight. Then change to anti dispersement oil, done.

(Sorry I could not resist )

Scolopax wrote:

CAVU wrote:Speaking of having an open mind, nice assumption about those of us who aren't interested in Burning Man . . . .

If you read "if you aren't interested in Burning Man, your mind is closed" in to my statement, you read it wrong. In no way is that what was articulated. The point is that if you have an idea in your head about how others should live, you probably will not have fun, because you are pretty much guaranteed to see people doing things that are not compliant with that idea.

Way to go. Follow one insult with another. Keep it up and you might get good at it. The only person who's behavior I'm in charge of is my own. I don't care OK? Have fun try not to take my non participation too harshly. It's not a judgement, it's a choice.

Analogy only (read with humor in mind please!)..

My one dude opinion standing in the background reading this thread only...

Bunrning Man is like WalMart, it helps a lot of people. But, I do not want one in my neighborhood!

Or maybe I do?