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Thanks, Luke.

It's blueish green. I think it's called teal. The color is not my favorite part - but it is distinctive. You will know it's me - can't hide behind that "little yellow airplane" any more... Also not a fan of the big ass 12" numbers but oh well.

I'd love to take you u on that offer to fly around Big Bend. I'll probably take you up on that. This plane needs some exercise so I've got excuses to go places. I have a few squawks to take care of so it'll be a couple of weeks before I'm comfortable doing more than going around the patch. Soon.

You know you are also welcome to come up and visit Boulder. Spring is coming - and with it the bikini hatch will be going off soon.

Skalywag wrote:Greg, is it green or blue, kinda hard to tell in the pic? Either way love the color.

Man, all the BCP'ers gettin/already flyin wagons is exciting. A long wing Maule would have been awesome too, but no doubt a wagon is a helluva ship. Super pumped for ya and hope you can bring it down to Llano in April!!! If you can divert to Big Bend on either part of your trip I'll show ya the "best" part of Texas haha [emoji12]
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Ha, yeah. I hope to be there, God willin' and the creek don't rise.

airfarmer wrote:congrads!!! You will be passing me on the way to Llano this year instead of me passing you. Hope to c ya there!
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Congrats Greg! Welcome to the Wagon family!
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soyAnarchisto wrote:...Also not a fan of the big ass 12" numbers but oh well.....


Are they painted on or stick-ons? Stick-ons come off real easy with a heat gun.
A set of 3" numbers is only about $25 from Spruce. And they're much safer.
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Congrats Greg! I like the color man. That girl was on my short list a few years ago when I was looking and never got to actually see her. Looking forward to getting to now.
Man if all these new wagons show up to llano that would be awesome! We'll need a "wagons only" parking area. Haha.
Good luck with her buddy.
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That looks like the one that was a hangar neighbor when old Fort Collins Downtown was still open. The color and Madras tips are what caught my attention back then (my airplane also has Madras tips).

Have fun! That's a completely different bird from the J3.

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Looks like a great machine Greg. Congratulations.
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Congrats Greg! Nice straight looking 180 and great list of mods to start with. A great set-up for the area we fly...

Looking forward to checking it out in person!

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I think they are stick on - as they are starting to peel back. I'll have to investigate a bit more and think about it. I'd also have to take off a little graphic aft of the numbers which doesn't quite fit with the paint scheme and think about how that would look. If the numbers will come off i might change the registration. The original she came with has been assigned to a Sikorsky so that's not available. I've always been partial to "whiskey" numbers. Juliet is too hard to say when oxygen deprived. LOL.

Also, since this thing was built more than 30 years ago I can go down to 2" numbers.

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soyAnarchisto wrote:...Also not a fan of the big ass 12" numbers but oh well.....


Are they painted on or stick-ons? Stick-ons come off real easy with a heat gun.
A set of 3" numbers is only about $25 from Spruce. And they're much safer.
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It probably was the same one. The PO is a Fort Collins resident - he owns Lucille's restaurant. The plane has been local for 20 years including long stints at KBDU.

Cary wrote:That looks like the one that was a hangar neighbor when old Fort Collins Downtown was still open. The color and Madras tips are what caught my attention back then (my airplane also has Madras tips).

Have fun! That's a completely different bird from the J3.

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soyAnarchisto wrote:I think they are stick on - as they are starting to peel back. I'll have to investigate a bit more and think about it. I'd also have to take off a little graphic aft of the numbers which doesn't quite fit with the paint scheme and think about how that would look. If the numbers will come off i might change the registration. The original she came with has been assigned to a Sikorsky so that's not available.....


You might think about peeling off the 12-inchers, and extending the white stripes back to the graphic thing. Then put a set of small numbers either on the new white stripe, or on the tail. Either way would look good.

Looks like your original number was N7674A. FAA records indicate it's issued to a 2015 S76 helo which is owned by Sikorsky, but has not yet been issued an airworthiness certificate. I wonder if you might be able to talk them out of the number. A friend of mine was in a similar situation several years ago with the original number on his newly-purchased 180-- Bellanca had it reserved but not yet in use. He blew it off, but his wife followed up with Bellanca and ended up getting the number back for him, and gave him the tail number paperwork for a birthday present.

I'm in a similar situation myself, a previous owner changed to a vanity number (N180xx) back in 1986. My original number was then issued to a Husky about 20 years ago, which crashed & burned (literally) and was de-registered a few years ago. So the number is not in use, but unfortunately the FAA has a hold on it until 2018 at which time I'll grab it. Since your tail number doesn't appear to be a vanity type number, I'd guess that it went out of the country or something at some point and was issued whatever number was handy when it came back. A buddy of mine has a 54 180 which has a history like this, his went to Mexico for a few years. Apparently sometimes when this happens the FAA or maybe the other country's aviation agency seizes the logbooks, he only has his from when the airplane came back into the country. I saw the T-A-P ad for your airplane says "no logs prior to 1996 (lost in a fire)", that might not actually be the case-- not that it matters why the log are missing.

Vanity tail numbers are OK in some situations, like homebuilts, but I really dislike seeing a non-original tail number on a fine old vintage airplane. Sometimes there's a valid reason, like in your case, but often the number is changed just to satisfy the owner's ego (I guess). I know I see an awful lot of N180xx numbers, and I can't believe they were all exported or whatever. I know other people must feel the same way I do-- I know of a local 53 model 180 whose tailnumber was just three characters (NxxA). Seemed wierd so I looked it up-- yup, per the serial number, that was the tail end of the original number which is currently assigned to another (non-180) airplane. Seen something similar on another 180 also. Thought about doing that to mine, but decided to just wait til 2018 and get the whole number when it becomes available.
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55wagon wrote: We'll need a "wagons only" parking area. Haha.


On damn...next thing you'll be excluding the converted 182s. ;)
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Re: Guess who has two thumbs and.....

Looks like your original number was N7674A.


My '56 was N7694A. That N number went off into the Twilight Zone somewhere too after I sold the airplane.

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I had thoughts of switching to a vanity number, enough to actually reserve one, until I learned that all of the P172Ds had consecutive numbers. So I kept it as is, but I just can't get myself to say eight five tree niner ex ray, no matter what ATCers call it. A tree is a tree, and a three is a three, and I was taught at about age 2 to say my ths. :)

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Cary wrote:I had thoughts of switching to a vanity number, enough to actually reserve one, until I learned that all of the P172Ds had consecutive numbers. So I kept it as is, but I just can't get myself to say eight five tree niner ex ray, no matter what ATCers call it. A tree is a tree, and a three is a three, and I was taught at about age 2 to say my ths. :)

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Cary wrote:I had thoughts of switching to a vanity number, enough to actually reserve one, until I learned that all of the P172Ds had consecutive numbers. So I kept it as is, but I just can't get myself to say eight five tree niner ex ray, no matter what ATCers call it. A tree is a tree, and a three is a three, and I was taught at about age 2 to say my ths. :)

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I guess I have trouble with "fife", too. That's supposed to go with a drum. :)

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I had no idea there were special pronunciations for numerals. :shock: I just say THREE and FIVE.
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Zzz wrote:I had no idea there were special pronunciations for numerals. :shock: I just say THREE and FIVE.



And Nine or Niner?
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I would guess that most any of the military combat radio, pilots, MP/SP types can still spill these out as well as the day they learned them. I know I can.

I laugh to myself everytime I here an LEO or a TV show say something different. Just me...but the phonic code was pretty well drilled into my memory.
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Zzz wrote:I had no idea there were special pronunciations for numerals. :shock: I just say THREE and FIVE.


That's it, Z. I'm going to need you to send me your license.

I'll ship it back to you after you can successfully phonetically recite your bank account numbers to me.
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