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My Passport came today. Eight days after submission of the paper work with the $80 priority speedup request. Amazing.

So, I know that you need a copy of the Transport Canada de-registration paperwork and a bill of sale in order to apply for a US AWC and Registration. BUT; do you need the Transport Canada de-registration paperwork to get the thing across the border into the US??

Has anyone done this and know for sure?

Thanks for the help

Dan

I'm interested to know as well. I've been reading up on the topic and the current exchange rate makes Canadian aircraft very attractive!

My citabria went to Columbus a couple years ago. He didn't need the de-registration paperwork to get into the US. Actually, it was easier to fly the plane there and then worry about the de-registration. Once TC has the paper work the send it to the FAA in Oklahoma I believe. It's a whole lot easier for planes heading south then bringing into Canada.

Can anyone point me to an airplane import broker?
I'm interested in a Skywagon in BC.

Just about any customs broker can prepare the import documents for the border crossing.

Suggest you have the current owner fly it to you on his insurance, and his Canadian License. Once it's at the FBO that will be conducting the import inspection/documentation, and registration change, they should be able to take care of all the details for you.

The Canadian seller has to deregister it in Canada. I'd almost insist on watching the deregistration card be handed off to the courier if I were you. This can be a big stumbling block if it's delayed.

We've got an aircraft buyer/seller/importer as a member here. Perhaps he'll share some of his knowledge.

I used AirplanesUSA to take care of the import when I purchased a Canadian plane. At the time I had no excess capacity to do anything myself, so a broker was the only way I would have gotten it taken care of. I was happy with the service I received from them. I used their Chicago office, but they have multiple locations. As stated, the previous owner delivered the plane to the US prior to de-registering it in Canada.

Now the mx shop that did the inspections as part of getting the airworthiness cert...I would avoid them at all cost. That was years ago, so hopefully they've cleaned up their act, but I will never find out.

The FAA could care less about your paperwork. They will only accept a fedfax from transport Canada, which is the ancient telex system that is secure. The cleanest way to do it is have an escrow company handle it, well worth the fee. You also need either the hard copy US registration or what is termed a flywire confirmation for international flights. Lately, the escrow company has gotten me the hard copy in a day or two, flywire in 12 hours. You also must have a customs decal, or the receipt copy of the application showing the fee paid confirmation. It can take as long as 6 weeks to get the actual decal, unless you request expedited handling. Your customs broker can do the SID, Standard Import Declaration. There is no duty on aircraft, but you may still have to pay for the customs bond fee.

Just finished up my 206H from India off the boat yesterday, leaves the port today heading up the hill to Flagstaff. My other Caravan in India just got deregistered so I am in the process of doing the paperwork packet. You may have the issue, kind of a technical crunch one. The CofA is not valid without the Canadian registration, well kind of maybe, since we have a reciprocal agreement with Canada. However you best ask your local International Flight Standards Office (I do not know which region has Canada at the moment) if you must do a 8130-6 Application for Airworthiness Certificate (used for ferry flights now). Cleanest way, have the seller or a designee fly it to the US, then do all the BS paperwork once it is sitting on your ramp. These little issues, like the CofA validity can have big issues if there is an insurance claim, like they will not pay. Oh, there is other little issues that may crop up. You would need an FCC Radio Station License for the aircraft to be in Canada with a US registration, normally they don't check, but since you will be between universes, so to speak, they may actually look. Hopefully you still have your Radio Telephone Operators Permit, rest of the world requirement. There is the DEA requirement of the little placard by the tail, getting the C number off and putting on a N number and so on.

Bottom line: have them fly it down, then do the paperwork. Hire an escrow company, International is a bit messy. Sure you can do it yourself, like that Russian doctor that took out his own appendix in Antartica, possible by why risk it.

My travel paper crap packets for the trip to India to fetch the Caravan:

Anybody that still has their sanity after importing a plane from India is worth listening to.

I'm still in awe of that undertaking Dogpilot.

There’s a DER in Seattle named Bill Andreychuk that we use for the conformity when importing/exporting seaplanes to/from Canada, he makes it pretty painless. Kenmore also has brokered many airplane deals in BC.

Halestorm wrote:There’s a DER in Seattle named Bill Andreychuk that we use for the conformity when importing/exporting seaplanes to/from Canada, he makes it pretty painless. Kenmore also has brokered many airplane deals in BC.

Bill was the Chief Engineer for a helicopter company I worked for 28 years ago. We've used him to import several helicopters and it's always gone very well. I believe he's a dual citizen and is a Transport Canada Ministers Delegate as well so he can give out C of A's on either side of the border.

I used a broker in Billings MT. Skysource, Luke
i just imported a plane from Charlie Lake BC. It was a pain but Luke worked through it all fairly will.

mine_alaska wrote:I used a broker in Billings MT. Skysource, Luke
i just imported a plane from Charlie Lake BC. It was a pain but Luke worked through it all fairly will.

Did you just buy the 7GCBC? GPKD? Welcome to BCP.