mjwings wrote:
I could not find any details on the Enterprise plans. The link mentioned here did not give me the information.

Jan

Download the sell sheet for the details, link on this page.

http://www.delorme.com/byIndustry/enter ... prise.aspx

Thanks for the information on the Enterprise plans, Bonanza Man and to others for the reasons they picked their plans. I like the idea of the variable track intervals of the enterprise plans. Still comparing with the consumer plans, but am leaning to enterprise 2.

Hey Jan,

I ended up going with the basic safety plan. Running the numbers for how much I fly a month and the associated messages, the enterprise plan didn't make sense. The draw back is you can't get 2 minute tracking with the consumer plans unless you buy the most expensive plan. Also, you can't get the automatic tracking and shutdown. I mentioned to them that it would be a great feature to have for us pilots and he said she would pass it on to development. He said he works closely with them and after I explained the safety aspect of it for pilots, he seemed pretty open to it.

On the basic safety plan, I figured I'd have to fly 20+ hours a month to warrant going to the $25 plan. Even for our big Alaska trip we have planned for this summer, I figured I'd need to fly 60+ hours to warrant going to the $25 plan when you figure in the charge to go back to the basic plan. The only down side is the limit of 10 text messages (those free text messages outside of your unlimited predefined messages). I'll play with it and see whether I decide to go to the $25 just for the 40 free text messages.

As for setup, it was pretty simple. Pairing and use with your mobile device was simple. I suggest using chrome browser when you set it up. Explorer had some issues. I had to play with it a bit to get it configured right for the recipients of my messages on the predefined messages. But it was an easy fix. Feel free to pm me if you have any issues.

The enterprise plan info is on their site. Just go to their website> why InReach> enterprise> then the view plans and product details on the right side. It opens a PDF file with the info. It has rough estimates of data usage for messages, tracks, etc so you can do the math to see if it will work for you.

FYI, their tech support was really helpful and receptive. So far, good customer service.

One thing I still need to figure out is if I can get the mapshare page that shows your tracks to be included with your messages. It lets you add a link, but that only shows your position where you were when you sent the message. The same is sent for FB updates. I want it to send the actual track page so people can see where I'm heading and where I've been. I emailed the link you create when setting it up to my family and friends, but if people weren't on that distribution list, they can't get that access from just the link that is included in the messages. Anyone know how to do this? For now I'm just going to include it in the text of my messages.

Good luck!


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Thank you for all the information, Grassstrippilot. Mike and I will have to look at our flying hours per month to see which plan is best. I had initially thought I would go with the Recreation Plan until I started reading this thread. We also plan a trip to Alaska this summer with maybe the Cub or my Rebel. Either airplane will add up to lots of hours going to and returning to New Mexico. I think we average about 30 hours a month currently and that will likely increase since i plan to semi or fully retire this spring. I am thinking several trips to Idaho too.

Thanks for the tips on pairing with our devices and getting the web links to our followers. I am reasonably saavy since I work in computers in my job.

I am looking forward to using this on our upcoming trips. We will probably see you out there. When are you going to Alaska? We have not decided, but may go to Alaska after the Super Cub fly-in in June (if they have one this year).

Hey Jan.

No problem. We are planning on l leaving around the end of the first week of June and coming back 3-4 weeks later.

The enterprise info is good because it will give you the rough estimates of how much data is used for each message and track that is sent. Then you can kind of figure out how much you'll send and how much data you're likely to consume.

FYI, I used the nav feature for the first time today while trying out our new snowshoes. Loved it! I planned the route at home, loaded it to the phone, and off we went. Very slick.


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A little new year - new usage - update, since I read this thread and others in choosing both a PLB and a subscription plan.

Purchased the InReach for Christmas to go along with the new PA-11 I was picking up. While I like the idea of it should I go down, my wife is a nervous nelly and so it helps her out being able to find me while I'm flying.

With all the chatter on here about the Enterprise plans vs the 10 minute intervals offered by the recreation plans, it was a no brainer to go with the Delorme 1 plan, figuring I would see how the usage went and move up plans from there, as you can move up without a fee.

Well, I got the first bill/receipt and found that tracking on 2-5 minute intervals uses a lot more data that I expected. On a 21 dollar plan I had 41 dollars in overage fees. Oops.

This may change since Garmin has purchased them, but the current invoice is confusing to the first timer. All the tracking points are bundled together so when they print out the invoice, it shows anywhere from 1 to 10 points being charged at the _EXACT_ same time. So at 10:47:52 you would see 10 points that look like they were logged and charged, instead of a single point being logged and charged for at that precise moment. So, I called them up and asked them to walk me through it. Turns out the points are bundled and changed to zulu time and then back to your timezone time, and then printed.... somehow ending up looking like they charged you 10 times for each point they tracked.

So then I went into my second question, which was missing tracking points, and in some cases, unlogged entire flight paths. As much as I didn't want to believe it, it really appeared to be an altitude thing, where my paths down the rivers and such were never logged, or perhaps 2 points in an 1.5 hr flight, and flights at 3000 feet pinged every single interval.

This turned out be low altitude flights in conjunction with having the InReach clipped onto the map pocket, right next to my right knee in the PA-11. Once I moved it up onto the glare shield, all the points were tracked. So bear in mind, it's not an ELT with a big antenna. It MUST have clear view of the sky at all times. I'd prefer to have it on my body, as it may be lost in a crash, but to ensure signal, get it out in the open.

But, this leads me to the real point of this post. The "CS rep" then questioned why I was using the Enterprise plan vs the standard subscription plan, for when you compare data usage and limited text messages, the "recreation" plan is substantially less expensive. Buy it on a yearly contact and it's only $25/month, vs $35+ for Enterprise. I explained that the Enterprise was recommended by all the pilots and how the tracking points at 10 minutes apart were too far....

So this is where I almost got caught.

There are two types of points captured, one is Tracking points based upon the plan and your preset, and a secondary point, called an interval point. This CS Rep in attempting to define these to me confidently told me that the Interval points upload with every set of Tracking points, and therefore if you have your Tracking points set at 10 minutes, and your interval points set at 2 minutes, it would upload 5 points every 10 minutes. THIS IS COMPLETELY FALSE. I said that's great, switch me over. One thing led to another and just before my trip on Sunday I got an email saying they hit a snag and could not swap plans without erasing this one and starting over new. I figured I'd respond Monday when I got back. So I looked at my tracked points upon return and was happy to see that on the glare shield all the Tracking points were displayed, but yet none of the Interval points showed up. So I spoke with Tech Support and sure enough, interval points only display when you sync the device. WTF. I don't have cell service much, and so I rarely link my phone to the InReach.

So to recap - If the InReach is linked to the Earthmate App on your phone, AND has cell service, it will sync over cellular data and upload the interval points. Otherwise, the only time your interval points will upload are after the flight, and you plug in the InReach and "sync" it. Which in reality, I have no reason to do, unless I am updating software or preset messages.

So just like everyone else on here stated - the Enterprise plan is currently the ONLY option to get tracking points under 10 minute intervals. And if you think that you don't go far in 10 minutes, log your flight in foreflight and with InReach, and then overlay the two tracks. They can be extremely different.

Long story short, I send the rep an email this morning saying that no, can't switch to the "recreation" plan, I have to stay with the Enterprise to ensure Tracking points under 10 minutes.

Here is a quick example of flying with the InReach clipped to the outside of the map pocket inside the cockpit (knee height, next to door).

The InReach map shows essentially 3 points it pinged from Lebanon to Fairlee and back across Wilder. The other tracks coming from and going west are not related.

Then look at the foreflight map for the exact same flight. Northeast up past Wentworth NH, over to Fairlee, down the river to the south, crossed over the mountain range to the East, and then back up Mascoma Lake (at altitude) to Lebanon.

What ever you are using, make sure it has a really good view. It appears to me that since Garmin/Delorme is using perhaps only the Iridium satellites, coverage is not at good as the GPS reception in my iPad, when not in clear view of the sky.

I have the Inreach SE which I used on several trips to Northern Maine 2 years ago.
Will be doing that again this Spring through Fall.
Do love the ability to text I'am safe and sound back to the family.

Can anyone explain why the Canadian plans are priced considerably less than the US plans?

Has anyone tried to subscribe to the enterprise plan since the new Garmin devices came out? They seem very reluctant to offer the enterprise plan. I am waiting for a call from the enterprise person but the non-business account person said it would be expensive and not available to single users.

I bought an InReach before I realized that Garmin had changed all the plans. From their website it says 10 or more devices for Enterprise plans. I returned mine and will stick with SPOT for now. Would have liked the texting capabilities that come with InReach..

I just purchased an Inreach last month, googled the enterprise plan and signed up with one device. I was able to do all of this online without any other assistance.

Wa180 wrote:I bought an InReach before I realized that Garmin had changed all the plans. From their website it says 10 or more devices for Enterprise plans. I returned mine and will stick with SPOT for now. Would have liked the texting capabilities that come with InReach..

The reasons you wanted an Enterprise plan was to get less than 10 minute tracking points, automatic tracking with power on and auto power on and off. I just bought the new Garmin inReach and those features are already baked in so no reason to have the Enterprise plan.

Bonanza Man wrote:The reasons you wanted an Enterprise plan was to get less than 10 minute tracking points, automatic tracking with power on and auto power on and off. I just bought the new Garmin inReach and those features are already baked in so no reason to have the Enterprise plan.

Garmins matrix shows tracking points at 10 minutes for all but the $80/$100 month plan. That's a lot of cabbage to get more granular tracking.

Rod

I still have my Enterprise plan, haven't been kicked off yet.