Karmutzen wrote:Slight thread drift, apologies...

hotrod180. You have a Garmin 296 on the panel. Run a wire from the NMEA output on its power/data harness (violet wire, page 134 of the manual) to the NMEA input wire of the G5, Pin 4 on the connector. Then all the nav information on the 296 will display on the G5.

Now if you then go for the FC-10 fuel flow, connect the same NMEA output from the 296 to the NMEA (serial) input on the FC-10, and it will then reference to your waypoint in the 296: fuel to get there, fuel remaining after you get there, how many nm per gallon you are burning.

Hi ! Do you know if the GPSMAP 295 does the same thing with the JPI FS-450 fuel flow scanner? I know it has a time remaining to next waypoint but I thought it had to be connected to a panel mount GPS. I was also told I could connect my Century 1 tracker to the portable GPS but still working on learning all this new stuff.

New panel has been cut out and is ready for pick-up. Unfortunately they were unable to have the screw holes pre-drilled, so I'll have to do that myself. I'll fit it, if I don't like the layout, we'll go back to the drawing board. I'm concerned that the two right side flight instruments holes are too low, and are too close for the top centre cut-out, where the G5 is supposed to go. We'll see....

Panel overhaul is well underway. Stripped 13 lbs out so far, with another 8-10 to go. Ordered a Garmin G5, and picked up the panel today. Seems like a big project at the moment.....

UpNorth, are you going to use shock mounts again or just bolt it on solid? Also, are you going to use the plastic cover again?

David

I have ordered new rubber Lord mounts to attach the panel. They are supposed to arrive any day now.

The cover is actually aluminum, and no, I won't use it as the hole pattern is completely different.

Do you guys think that the rubber shock mounts for the panel really help?
IMHO they don't seem to do much, plus when they get old they sag or break.
When I bought my last airplane the rubbers were all sagging or broken, so I replaced them with 1/4" long bushings & plain old screws with nuts.
Probably gonna go the same route with the 180 one of these days.

I can't speak to how well the mounts work, but I figured the cost to replace them was reasonable if they minimize any vibrations. Like yours, many of mine were broken as well (only 4 of the 10 were actually attached, the rest broken or missing all together).

In my 180, the instruments that were in the shock mounted portion of the panel seemed to vibrate more then the solid portion. Hence my question. If I were to redo it, I was just going to mount it solid. Not saying that it will work better, just how I think I'd do it.

I just replaced all mine and put in a new panel. The lord mounts were shaped like the letter Z

Here is my iPad mount - Airgizmos. Has done great the last few years.

Getting ready to do a full overhaul - has anyone managed to put a 9.7" ipad mount horizontal in the passenger side panel?

firebird wrote:I had a blank instrument cutout that was covered with a piece of aluminium. I bought a RAM circle mount with a pivot ball (4 small bolts through the aluminium) and bought the matching RAM iPad mount and it sits just under the dash pad in the centre of the panel

What a good idea! I was struggling a bit with a long ram arm out to the suction cups on the right of my windscreen. I'll try what you did, hope I can now manage a comfortable 9.7" ipad placement on the copilot panel.

Ewww, the amount of work that you guys are going to, to revise your panels! I admire your patience, not something I have.

The other thing I don't have is room for any size iPad on my P172D's panel, so I have been really happy with the yoke mount for my Mini 4 from forpilotsonly.com. Unfortunately they seem to have stopped making it, but if I had to replace it, I'd get another yoke mount. As small as the screen on the iPad Mini is, having it close on the yoke seems best to me--and it's the same size as the yoke desk I used to have for paper approach plates. I have run ship's power to it, so that my Mini 4 is powered. I've heard of people complaining that the motion of the yoke bothers them, but it's never bothered me at all. I run ForeFlight and use a Stratus 2 for ADS-B In.

Cary

Just a thought here from an old fart. I would be concerned about putting ipads into panels that are really expensive real estate. I think of the planes that I have owned and they had almost 70 year old instruments in them that still worked. Apple anything seems to be good for 3-5 years and then it is time for a new one. This could result in continuous panel upgrades.

Apple iPad upgrades are significantly cheaper than gauge upgrades... for the most part they seem to have the same form-fit as well.

Plus they do other things when decoupled from the airplane. Like movies for your kids/grandkids. Or iMessage/Skyping those same kids/grandkids if you’re not on airplane adventures together. Or even flight planning from your hotel/tent/hammock. All things that a normal panel instrument can’t do.

A Stinson 10A I fly for work has a very simple panel. It's strictly a day VFR bushwheels kinda plane. It has a binder clip screwed to the panel. Surprisingly good for holding a paper with notes or more recently I discovered it's perfect for an iphone with foreflight or spotify. It's actually great. The placard "GPS for VFR use only" is either a joke or a remnant of a past life because there is no GPS..