JPI EDM900

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CParker wrote:Wanted to update this thread with the final results:

Very clean, looks great. How are you liking the AV-30?

Very happy with it so far. I'm still trying to figure out if the AOA feature is actually useful, but otherwise, it's great!

CParker wrote:Wanted to update this thread with the final results:

Man, that is PERFECT. I need to speak to an avionics shop and see what that would run me.

akaviator wrote:

CParker wrote:Wanted to update this thread with the final results:

Man, that is PERFECT. I need to speak to an avionics shop and see what that would run me.

Really is the ideal functionality for what most people on this site do and AV30 will get you out of the cloud if you take a wrong turn. I think I’d throw a garmin 660 in the radio stack.

A couple options to reduce price:
- his panel shown can monitor up to 4 frequencies and transmit on 2. Eliminate a radio and you can still monitor both freq and transmit on one. This also allows you to eliminate the audio panel.
- switch from Garmin 225 radio to GTR200, like $800 savings per radio but only some shops will install them in certified.
- JPI 900 would save $1000 on engine monitor if you don’t mind the square form. I have a feeling Cparker likes the round form of CGR, they do look clean.




Well done

Nice job - got all you need for VFR flying and very clean

That is a clean, functional looking panel very nice

asa wrote:

akaviator wrote:

CParker wrote:Wanted to update this thread with the final results:

I have a feeling Cparker likes the round form of CGR, they do look clean.

Guilty as charged, function is non-negotiable, but form is a very close second for me.

CParker wrote:

asa wrote:

akaviator wrote:

CParker wrote:Wanted to update this thread with the final results:

I have a feeling Cparker likes the round form of CGR, they do look clean.

Guilty as charged, function is non-negotiable, but form is a very close second for me.

I've flown with CGR, pretty much all EDM's, and MVP-50. My favorite on-screen layout is the CGR, then JPI stuff, then MVP is last. Not sure why, but the graphics on the MVP look like 3 generations old. Only downside of CGR is how much can fit on screen but you solved that with two. I've never used a second CGR but that it's a killer combo. Do you have a closer pic of what you're displaying on each? It's in that last pic, but not quite high enough quality to zoom in much

I had to zoom and crop so a bit grainy but here it is:

Carb temp is the only value I sometimes struggle with. Everything else is really nice. The reason I say I struggle with it is because it's not necessarily a serious issue in all operating conditions, but it will annunciate either way.

If carb temp goes into the yellow, you can completely silence the alarm. If the value goes into the red, the annunciator will stay red but stop flashing if you silence it. So, essentially it conditions me to accept an annunciator light. I don't really like that, but I don't necessarily want to pull that function from the annunciator either... not sure what to do with that.

This has encouraged me to run partial carb heat, even during high power cruise. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but again just sort of a weird situation I need to figure out.

On the AV-30C, I would strongly recommend adding Density Altitude information on one of them. Also, I'd install two of them, VFR or not. A DG is still a very useful tool in a VFR only airplane. I installed both AV-30s, and would do so again.

But, the Density Altitude display is an easy add on, you have to add a temperature sensor, that plugs into one of the AV-30s.

In back country flying, certainly in the mountain west, an instant readout of density altitude is a serious tool to have.

And, I'd reiterate that I'd go with a JPI EDM 900, which provides ALL required information on one page. Makes no sense to me to try to reduce instrument clutter, and use two holes for an instrument monitor, when one of those holes is really just there for a single additional indication.

MTV

mtv wrote:On the AV-30C, I would strongly recommend adding Density Altitude information on one of them. Also, I'd install two of them, VFR or not. A DG is still a very useful tool in a VFR only airplane. I installed both AV-30s, and would do so again.

But, the Density Altitude display is an easy add on, you have to add a temperature sensor, that plugs into one of the AV-30s.

In back country flying, certainly in the mountain west, an instant readout of density altitude is a serious tool to have.

And, I'd reiterate that I'd go with a JPI EDM 900, which provides ALL required information on one page. Makes no sense to me to try to reduce instrument clutter, and use two holes for an instrument monitor, when one of those holes is really just there for a single additional indication.

MTV

I agree, I added the temperature sensor kit with my AV-30 so I could have outside temp and density altitude.

On the av-30, the second page is a non-slaved DG, so if I need DG I just switch pages. I rarely would need both simultaneously, so opted to stick with one av-30. A magnetometer will be released at some point which will eliminate the need to adjust the DG.

The AV 30 has the DG arc even in AH mode. Pretty easy to see and adjust.
On the CGR, if he wouldn't have gone with fuel he could have had it all on one. Having one primary on another screen really isn't a big deal. Its so easy to scroll rheough and see. I like the round look and functions the CGR offers. I have one in my 206 and would go there again in a heart beat.

CParker wrote:Carb temp is the only value I sometimes struggle with. Everything else is really nice. The reason I say I struggle with it is because it's not necessarily a serious issue in all operating conditions, but it will annunciate either way.

If carb temp goes into the yellow, you can completely silence the alarm. If the value goes into the red, the annunciator will stay red but stop flashing if you silence it. So, essentially it conditions me to accept an annunciator light. I don't really like that, but I don't necessarily want to pull that function from the annunciator either... not sure what to do with that.

This has encouraged me to run partial carb heat, even during high power cruise. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but again just sort of a weird situation I need to figure out.

I notice you have yellow and red in the carb temp. I did green and blue, as EI suggests.

I wonder if you can just shut the alarm off completely.

CP,

I love your panel! Function and esthetics in one package. Suggestion, mount the iPad over on the copilots panel with what ever type of mount you like, maybe something so adhesive or something that you don't have to cut into the nice panel to mount. A RAM ball will only require you to drill 2 screw holes then you can use the ball as an anchor. Anyway, many options. I really like the way you left the copilots panel blank so you can do just that, I hate stuff mounted on the yoke, its heavy and can be dangerous in an accident. With all that room on the copilots side you could run the big iPad or a Garmin 760 which is a great unit. What ever you put over there you can angle it toward you.

Once again, super nice panel! Refresh my memory and post a picture of your airplane, I forgot what she looks like.

Kurt

Thanks everyone.

Yeah, I had considered putting an iPad Pro over there or another AV-30. I wanted to give it some time and see what I thought.

My 182 isn't anything to write home about, but here she is at big creek last summer:

Nice airplane, great adventure machine!

Kurt

That panel turned out super clean! Well done.