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Mountain flying: what do you know now that you didn’t then?

Before flying in the mountains, what’s one thing you do now that you didn’t do when you started?
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Re: Mountain flying: what do you know now that you didn’t th

What the elders said about high density altitude is TRUE.
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Wind matters more than most things. Understanding how it will help and hurt you will keep you alive, regardless of density altitude and how much horsepower you have. Better yet, understand how it works, and how to identify it.
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You can’t see rotor winds, but you can predict them.
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Brief your passengers before you go, and talk them through what you are going to do before you do it. Most passengers aren't used to flying close to terrain, flying low, flying in canyons, landing on short, rough strips. Talk about overflying to examine the runway, and go arounds. Make sure they understand the plan, and don't push them into uncomfortable situations.

I scared my wife at Red's Horse Ranch by not telling her we would turn about 20 degrees during our takeoff roll due to a bend in the grass runway, stay in ground effect a while to gain speed, and then climb out slowly so I could see the trees and terrain. She thought we dramatically swerved, and then weren't climbing. All while in the bottom of a treed canyon with nowhere to crash land.
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It was always pretty obvious to me, but "keeping a door open" is a necessity. An egress path through which you can glide away from terrain can buy you some altitude and time if something unusual happens.

There are times when this isn't easy or even possible, especially when crossing ridges with peaks obscured and limited clearance between saddles and cloud base. Can't say I haven't done that a few times, but at those times, alarms that are impossible to ignore should be going off in your head.
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Re: Mountain flying: what do you know now that you didn’t th

That not all pilots can actually fly well enough to fly the backcountry.
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StillLearning wrote:That not all pilots can actually fly well enough to fly the backcountry.


Even pilots that can fly well can be taken by surprise, if they're not used to operating high hot & heavy.
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hotrod180 wrote:
StillLearning wrote:That not all pilots can actually fly well enough to fly the backcountry.


Even pilots that can fly well can be taken by surprise, if they're not used to operating high hot & heavy.


Bingo! The ability to plan for variability, build margin through superior flight planning, expect surprises, and the sense to GTFO if things aren't right is the name of the game.

Humility is your very best friend in aviation.

He or she who asses themselves as "Hot $#!+" has it coming. The examples of this are plentiful...
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StillLearning wrote:That not all pilots can actually fly well enough to fly the backcountry.


I am haunted by this one. A couple of summers after I first took dual instruction in Idaho, I was camped out up at Thomas Creek when my instructor died while teaching a flatlander like me in his 182. We'll never know that cause, but one possibility (for which there was some evidence, I was told), was that the student pulled up prematurely, stalled the wing, and the instructor couldn't overpower him on the yoke. The NTSB's probable cause was "failure to maintain clearance from trees."

I also remember my instructor cautioning me about winds, how too many risk factors can stack up, and it can happen when you least expect it. I generally don't think of my family or others in the plane as a risk factor, but, in the decades since, I've been in a couple of tight spots where the composure--or lack thereof--of the person in the right seat made things much easier or much harder to deal with. I take that into account now, and do not take folks who are afraid of flying into challenging places. I'm also cautious about who I fly with, and I am intensely aware of the responsibility and trust it shows when someone agrees to ride with me.
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jcadwell wrote:Brief your passengers before you go, and talk them through what you are going to do before you do it. Most passengers aren't used to flying close to terrain, flying low, flying in canyons, landing on short, rough strips. Talk about overflying to examine the runway, and go arounds. Make sure they understand the plan, and don't push them into uncomfortable situations.


This was one I learned as well. Any time someone is sitting in another seat in a small plane, they're part of the flight crew. They may not be able to fly, but they can sure make flying tougher if they don't know what to do.
Years ago departing the grass runway in roundup MT mid day, bounced around pretty good before we finally got off the deck. Just as we did glove box popped open and a medicine bottle of spare bulbs/screws/fuses fell out. Passenger let out a pretty good scream, didn't know if the airplane was falling apart. Meanwhile I'm fighting high DA in ground effect with the end of the mesa approaching. Got a climb established and de-fused situation, and have since added to my briefing that I really only need to know if the airplane is dumping gas and on fire - and even then I'll fly the gas fireball somewhere soft to crash.
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Re: Mountain flying: what do you know now that you didn’t th

The updraft elevator. Sunny side of the valley and the downwind or updraft side of the valley. Pay very close attention. Save you or kill you. Fly very close to terrain.
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Beware of hazardous attitudes.

Lots of us "behave" when we're in busy airspace, talking to ATC, etc. We don't want to get in trouble. Then we get out away from all that and we think that we can relax and not follow the rules/procedures etc. that usually exist to keep us safe. An element of machismo creeps in. Sometimes that leads us to operate in a riskier manner which is a dangerous concept when coupled with the inherent risk of backcountry aviation.
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Re: Mountain flying: what do you know now that you didn’t th

1. In low ceilings, stay away from fuzzy ridges. Even sharp ridges can have a fuzzy one behind them. Approach the sharp ones a bit obliqely if you can. The 180˚ turn is a little easier that way.

2. Watch out for the firefighting restricted areas. You may be in the wilderness, but they can be, too.
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