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Registering a private strip

I plan to put my home strip on the maps. Before I begin the process, does anyone have any tips/concerns/personal experience with the process that may help? I don't want to apply to the FAA and then learn that I screwed up and complicated the process......
I live basically in the middle of nowhere and I'm certainly not the only one around here with a strip

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Jeff

My wife and a handful of friends have named our place Field of Dreams.
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It was a no-brainer when I did mine. I started with the State Aeronautics and went from there.
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I tried to do a search as there have been a few done in the last few years, It just takes awhile, I think it took almost 2 years from start to finish with mine 82WN.
Good Luck, Have fun with your strip, nice to live on one!!
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One thing you'll have to decide is whether you want your strip charted or not. A friend of mine registered his strip a few years ago, mainly to "grandfather it in" in case of any future hassles with the neighbors and/or county since it had been basically unused for many years before he bought the place. He elected to leave it uncharted, figuring he'd get less uninvited looky-loo drop-ins that way. But he gets them anyway-- even though it's uncharted and with a "private use. permission required prior to landing" notation on airnav.

You may think now that you'll welcome anyone just dropping in. You will, if you know them and or they turn out to be cool. But when the neighbors call up to bitch because someone does a loud low fly-by or some touch-and-go's, or after some idiot almost flies into your house or hangar, you might be singing a different tune.
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Besides the feds, you'll need to check out your local requirements. I'd suggest starting with the County Planner. Your state Aeronautics department will also likely have some info.

Also, PM sent.

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I did not want mine registered. My liability portion of my farm package goes way up if I have a landing strip. Call your insurance agent. I got a few quotes four years ago and two insurance co would not even quote if I had a strip.

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All of this just to get my little spot to show up on the sectional..... good grief.

By the way, my insurance company already knows that I fly in and out of there and will have nothing to do with any aviation-related claim. Even my umbrella policy won't help.....
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Cary wrote:Besides the feds, you'll need to check out your local requirements. I'd suggest starting with the County Planner. Your state Aeronautics department will also likely have some info.

Also, PM sent.

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While it may be advisable, the Feds could care less if the locals rubber stamp your strip. They put my first strip on the chart and whether or not I had asked the county P&Z etc. never came up. If you want to get it listed, on the sectional, you can do so without the locals being advised or consulted. Your results may vary depending on your neighborhood, your airplane size and noise, and for lack of a better term, good karma.
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Alpina23 wrote:By the way, my insurance company already knows that I fly in and out of there and will have nothing to do with any aviation-related claim. Even my umbrella policy won't help.....


I had the same experience with my insurance company. Won't touch it.
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Cary wrote:Besides the feds, you'll need to check out your local requirements. I'd suggest starting with the County Planner. Your state Aeronautics department will also likely have some info.

Also, PM sent.

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While it may be advisable, the Feds could care less if the locals rubber stamp your strip. They put my first strip on the chart and whether or not I had asked the county P&Z etc. never came up. If you want to get it listed, on the sectional, you can do so without the locals being advised or consulted. Your results may vary depending on your neighborhood, your airplane size and noise, and for lack of a better term, good karma.


This is the path I would like :) If I can just get it listed with the FAA so it goes onto the sectional I'll be happy. I really don't have much for neighbors out here and I've spoken to all of the closest ones. They couldn't care less about the planes. One of the two closest hays my field.
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Re: Registering a private strip

A friend of mine once owned a private strip up on the north side of the Klamath River.

His lawyer advised him to NOT put in on a chart (potential liability) and to place BIG Xs on it. So he did..
Friends who were checked out for three landings were welcome.

Never had a problem with us using it.
Never had an unwanted guest.

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Re: Registering a private strip

My strip has been registered for at least 30 years. I have never had any issues with unwanted guest or anyone landing without permission. Perhaps that is different from others as I am not in the mountains or a particularly picturesque part of the country.

Curiously, the form to request registration was mailed to me from the FAA without my request. I never knew who filed the initial request, it remains a mystery to me. When the document arrived needing my signature, I though sure, what the hell and I signed it and mailed it in. A few years ago I had a voicemail from the Feds asking me to call them back. I wasn't too keen on calling, but I did anyway. I spoke with a guy in a D.C. office who was reviewing potential airports for closure. I guess they wanted to close mine. I asked why and he told me they overflew it and couldn't locate it. I find that hard to believe as a grass strip located between two wheat fields is pretty easy to spot, even from way up high. When I protested, he backed right down and I never heard another word from them.

I hope I never do, them or their brothers at the IRS :)
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Alpina23 wrote:....If I can just get it listed with the FAA so it goes onto the sectional I'll be happy.....


Why's that, Jeff? Just to give you a warm & fuzzy feeling, or bragging rights, or? In a way, it wold be cool to have a charted airstrip, but IMHO being charted brings liability & more chance of unwanted drop-ins on the negative side, but not much on the positive side.
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If I can just get it listed with the FAA so it goes onto the sectional I'll be happy.


I get you 100% on this, I have a strip that I named after my daughter and I'm doing the same. On the convenience side, it does get old telling pilots to go south 2 miles from the elevation peak 3668 adjacent to……etc, on the sectional, vs fly to XXX strip on the sectional. There's five other private strips in a 5 mile radius from mine, two are listed, so that's another reason.
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One benefit of registering and charting your strip is that it makes it easier for flying friends to find your place. Based on the amount of feedback you are getting, it looks like you have a growing number of flying friends.

I sent you a PM and hope to hear back from you.

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Flyhound wrote:One benefit of registering and charting your strip is that it makes it easier for flying friends to find your place. Based on the amount of feedback you are getting, it looks like you have a growing number of flying friends.

I sent you a PM and hope to hear back from you.

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Replied, sir :)
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Re: Registering a private strip

I'm passionate about airplanes and flying. My wife and I chased a dream: live with our airplanes. And doggonit we did it! We love the flying community and our flying friends. Sure, I'm concerned about liability and the welfare of friends who may have a problem at my field. Who wouldn't be.
Bragging rights?. That sure sounds shallow. But maybe that's it.
I'm telling myself that it's for purposes of navigation. I get the question weekly "what are the coordinates?" Sure, I think it would be fun within the aviation community to have my place listed on the charts. I'm not really concerned that have my field on the chart list as restricted, permission required makes for a tremendous liability increase over not listing and giving chosen people permission to land. I also do not believe that the aviation community is as likely to sue when they screw up as the rest of the world. If I screw up trying to land at your house and bend my plane and hurt myself, that my fault. If I kill myself, my wife knows it's my own fault.

It will also make it easier to enter my flights into my electronic log book. Yes, I still log all of my flights. I'm a nerd like that.

Anyway, thank you all for the input. Someday I hope to meet each and everyone of you at a fly in at someone's private grass field somewhere.
Fly safely :)
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I'm passionate about airplanes and flying. My wife and I chased a dream: live with our airplanes. And doggonit we did it!


What a kick, good for you! Looking forward to seeing it listed and stopping by. It took me two years to scrape and put mine in, so there are a lot of us that understand the hard work and really appreciate the fact that you are making it available to those that fly for strips like this, and meeting families like yours. Thanks again...
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hotrod180 wrote:
Alpina23 wrote:....If I can just get it listed with the FAA so it goes onto the sectional I'll be happy.....


Why's that, Jeff? Just to give you a warm & fuzzy feeling, or bragging rights, or? In a way, it wold be cool to have a charted airstrip, but IMHO being charted brings liability & more chance of unwanted drop-ins on the negative side, but not much on the positive side.



Not to be argumentative....just pointing out experiences. One of the main reasons to look at charting a strip (public use, call for runway advisories...or just private) is cell towers. Serious problem in some areas. A guy goes and spends 200K-1MM on his dream place and then someone puts up a tower on the end. I've been told first hand that having it on the sectional as an airport is a handy thing for your lawyer to go into a court room with when the FAA does it's mandatory hazard to navigation review. Something to talk about with your lawyer.

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I'm pretty sure aviation is now a recreation activity in WA and it limits your liability as long as your aren't negligent.... I.e. oops I plowed a ditch in the middle of the runway and covered it with leaves!
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