albravo wrote:That is a beautiful gun. I'm not generally sensitive to recoil but something tells me I'd change my tune if I shot that a few times.

Hammer wrote:I spent time in the far-eastern provinces of India with a rogue elephant hunter named Dinesh Chowdary who carried the same rifle. It's a hell of an impressive rifle, but believe it or not he was actually jealous that I had the same rifle chambered in 30-06 back home in Idaho. He wasn't a large man by any physical measure, and I suspect he would have enjoyed owning a rifle that didn't batter him quite so enthusiastically.

When I bought this gun it graded 99% / "test fired only" so I only ran enough rounds through it to be comfortable, but don't remember it being too bad. Now for whatever reason my old man had a 9.3X74R chambered in a falling block (single shot) action. I can only remember one guy to ever shoot it twice...ever. We finally "decided" that the chamber pressures were too high to be safe in an old action so we stopped shooting it.

I have a Krieghoff Classic double rifle in 9.3x74R I purchased when living in Germany to take on a hunt to Zim. It's one of the sweetest handling rifles I own. Handles like a fine British .28 ga./410 double!
First time I fired it, my wife and son were laughing at me. At a whooping 5'6" and at the time probably 140-150 lbs. dripping wet. Yes, a bit of recoil, but not anything a guy that shoots an '06 regularly can't handle. Recoil about like a heavier weight .375 H&H. Deep penetrating cartridge!

WWhunter wrote:I have a Krieghoff Classic double rifle in 9.3x74R I purchased when living in Germany to take on a hunt to Zim. It's one of the sweetest handling rifles I own. Handles like a fine British .28 ga./410 double!
First time I fired it, my wife and son were laughing at me. At a whooping 5'6" and at the time probably 140-150 lbs. dripping wet. Yes, a bit of recoil, but not anything a guy that shoots an '06 regularly can't handle. Recoil about like a heavier weight .375 H&H. Deep penetrating cartridge!

Pictures of that bad boy or you’re a square[emoji1]

I would love to have a double rifle. Bucket list.

gbflyer wrote:

WWhunter wrote:I have a Krieghoff Classic double rifle in 9.3x74R I purchased when living in Germany to take on a hunt to Zim. It's one of the sweetest handling rifles I own. Handles like a fine British .28 ga./410 double!
First time I fired it, my wife and son were laughing at me. At a whooping 5'6" and at the time probably 140-150 lbs. dripping wet. Yes, a bit of recoil, but not anything a guy that shoots an '06 regularly can't handle. Recoil about like a heavier weight .375 H&H. Deep penetrating cartridge!

Pictures of that bad boy or you’re a square[emoji1]

I would love to have a double rifle. Bucket list.

Now you're making go back to the 'How to post a photo" thread!! Give me a bit And I'll bang my head on the wall a few times and see if I can figure it out.

Well, see if this works...

Like!

Sweet

I'm in love!!!! Just something about those straight shouldered cartridges.......
John

Very nice Keith!

Thanks guys!! It is a very sweet rifle. Carries well, pretty accurate for a double and legal in most countries for nearly anything that walks the earth. Hoping to get back to the 'Dark' contintent again one day. If any of you have ever read Capsticks "Death in the Long Grass", you'll get the itch also. I spent the better part of a day tracking a wounded lion in Zimbabwe, one the most adrenaline filled days of my life!!

My son has already laid claim to it when I depart this earth for the pearly gates.

For some reason I decided to load up some 220 grain Nosler Partitions for my 30-06's. A max load of R-22 gives just over 2,600 fps...little less from my 20" barrel mountain rifle.

I've never considered a 30-06 to be a rifle of substantial recoil, but after twelve rounds from a bench rest I wanted to bawl. The rifle I was shooting is very light and doesn't have a recoil pad, but still...I can shoot a full box of 180 grain factory loads and not really think about it.

Accuracy was good...good as I can shoot through a 4x scope while crying, anyway. Definitely a different animal than the 30-06 I knew yesterday.

I topped the day off by bench testing some 250 grain loads in my .348 Winchester, but I put a sand bag between my shoulder and the rifle butt for that bit of fun. To think that the Winchester 71 came from the factory with a steel butt plate...brutal.

Powerful rifles are a fascination to many, but I think I've personally reached the limit of my recoil tolerance. If you can't shoot it more than two or three times without being in pain, what's the point?

That's what they made muzzle breaks for hammer. My 338 lapua actually kicks less then my 270WSM finlite. Weight and a slower burning powder are to partially credit as well, but the break is the biggest difference maker.

A1Skinner wrote:That's what they made muzzle breaks for hammer. My 338 lapua actually kicks less then my 270WSM finlite. Weight and a slower burning powder are to partially credit as well, but the break is the biggest difference maker.

What'd you say? What's that again? Huh? Were you talking to me?

Just practicing for the instillation of my muzzle break...

Seriously, I know muzzle brakes can make a huge difference in recoil, but they come with a massive noise signature. Hearing damage is both permanent and cumulative, so I'm hesitant to embrace muzzle brakes.

I got schooled on hearing loss, but it was a little late. I never really understood how much damage was done with every percussion, but I'm living proof of it. I actually wear silicone ear plugs AND over-ear hearing protection when I shoot now, and every shot is still doing damage. It surprised me to learn that, but it's true. Aural faculty is, as it turns out, fantastically fragile. Anything that increases it is worth serious consideration as to the pros and cons.

Hammer wrote:

A1Skinner wrote:That's what they made muzzle breaks for hammer. My 338 lapua actually kicks less then my 270WSM finlite. Weight and a slower burning powder are to partially credit as well, but the break is the biggest difference maker.

What'd you say? What's that again? Huh? Were you talking to me?

Just practicing for the instillation of my muzzle break...

Seriously, I know muzzle brakes can make a huge difference in recoil, but they come with a massive noise signature. Hearing damage is both permanent and cumulative, so I'm hesitant to embrace muzzle brakes.

I got schooled on hearing loss, but it was a little late. I never really understood how much damage was done with every percussion, but I'm living proof of it. I actually wear silicone ear plugs AND over-ear hearing protection when I shoot now, and every shot is still doing damage. It surprised me to learn that, but it's true. Aural faculty is, as it turns out, fantastically fragile. Anything that increases it is worth serious consideration as to the pros and cons.

I completely agree with you there. I never wore hearing protection as a kid when I was shooting or for running dozer when I started. I wish I had. I now use ANR shooting muffs and they are awesome, but I know theres still damage happening, especially with these big calibers and breaks. But a guy still has to have some fun in life...

I just picked up a Marlin 1895 lever action in .45-70. 16-inch barrel with Skinner sights. It’ll spend time in the plane in Idaho.

12 Gauge Mossberg Shockwave with 00 Buck high brass shells and Springfield XDm 9mm with Buffalo Bore ammo.

Hammer wrote:For some reason I decided to load up some 220 grain Nosler Partitions for my 30-06's. A max load of R-22 gives just over 2,600 fps...little less from my 20" barrel mountain rifle.

I've never considered a 30-06 to be a rifle of substantial recoil, but after twelve rounds from a bench rest I wanted to bawl. The rifle I was shooting is very light and doesn't have a recoil pad, but still...I can shoot a full box of 180 grain factory loads and not really think about it.

Accuracy was good...good as I can shoot through a 4x scope while crying, anyway. Definitely a different animal than the 30-06 I knew yesterday.

I topped the day off by bench testing some 250 grain loads in my .348 Winchester, but I put a sand bag between my shoulder and the rifle butt for that bit of fun. To think that the Winchester 71 came from the factory with a steel butt plate...brutal.

Powerful rifles are a fascination to many, but I think I've personally reached the limit of my recoil tolerance. If you can't shoot it more than two or three times without being in pain, what's the point?

My dad left me a .35 Whelen, which is a necked up .30-06. Iron sights. Simple.
Pops actually wore it out as a .30-06 and did the conversion, then hunted moose with it for years.

I remember my dad working up some loads. My dad, one of my brothers and I took turns shooting it for groups.

We probably looked very gracious of each other, never shooting more than 2-3 rounds at a time before giving someone else a turn

aftCG wrote:

Hammer wrote:For some reason I decided to load up some 220 grain Nosler Partitions for my 30-06's. A max load of R-22 gives just over 2,600 fps...little less from my 20" barrel mountain rifle.

I've never considered a 30-06 to be a rifle of substantial recoil, but after twelve rounds from a bench rest I wanted to bawl. The rifle I was shooting is very light and doesn't have a recoil pad, but still...I can shoot a full box of 180 grain factory loads and not really think about it.

Accuracy was good...good as I can shoot through a 4x scope while crying, anyway. Definitely a different animal than the 30-06 I knew yesterday.

I topped the day off by bench testing some 250 grain loads in my .348 Winchester, but I put a sand bag between my shoulder and the rifle butt for that bit of fun. To think that the Winchester 71 came from the factory with a steel butt plate...brutal.

Powerful rifles are a fascination to many, but I think I've personally reached the limit of my recoil tolerance. If you can't shoot it more than two or three times without being in pain, what's the point?

My dad left me a .35 Whelen, which is a necked up .30-06. Iron sights. Simple.
Pops actually wore it out as a .30-06 and did the conversion, then hunted moose with it for years.

I remember my dad working up some loads. My dad, one of my brothers and I took turns shooting it for groups.

We probably looked very gracious of each other, never shooting more than 2-3 rounds at a time before giving someone else a turn

I’ve got a .35 Whelen. Love it. “Almost” a .375 H&H but 5 rounds instead of 3. It’s my Sitka blacktail rifle during the time when the brown bears are still up and around. Emphatic killing power and next to no meat loss with the right bullet. Best adaptation of the timeless 30-06 cartridge going.

gbflyer wrote:

aftCG wrote:

Hammer wrote:For some reason I decided to load up some 220 grain Nosler Partitions for my 30-06's. A max load of R-22 gives just over 2,600 fps...little less from my 20" barrel mountain rifle.

I've never considered a 30-06 to be a rifle of substantial recoil, but after twelve rounds from a bench rest I wanted to bawl. The rifle I was shooting is very light and doesn't have a recoil pad, but still...I can shoot a full box of 180 grain factory loads and not really think about it.

Accuracy was good...good as I can shoot through a 4x scope while crying, anyway. Definitely a different animal than the 30-06 I knew yesterday.

I topped the day off by bench testing some 250 grain loads in my .348 Winchester, but I put a sand bag between my shoulder and the rifle butt for that bit of fun. To think that the Winchester 71 came from the factory with a steel butt plate...brutal.

Powerful rifles are a fascination to many, but I think I've personally reached the limit of my recoil tolerance. If you can't shoot it more than two or three times without being in pain, what's the point?

My dad left me a .35 Whelen, which is a necked up .30-06. Iron sights. Simple.
Pops actually wore it out as a .30-06 and did the conversion, then hunted moose with it for years.

I remember my dad working up some loads. My dad, one of my brothers and I took turns shooting it for groups.

We probably looked very gracious of each other, never shooting more than 2-3 rounds at a time before giving someone else a turn

I’ve got a .35 Whelen. Love it. “Almost” a .375 H&H but 5 rounds instead of 3. It’s my Sitka blacktail rifle during the time when the brown bears are still up and around. Emphatic killing power and next to no meat loss with the right bullet. Best adaptation of the timeless 30-06 cartridge going.

Might want to fix you picture...it's backwards...

Always wanted a .35 Whelen, but then again I've wanted a lot of guns. Funny, since I don't hunt anymore. I've been working towards upgrading the scopes on some of my rifles to Swarvoski, and when my wife asks why I don't have a logical answer. It's just proper is all. It doesn't even make good sense to me, but here I am.

gbflyer wrote:

aftCG wrote:[quote="Hammer"
I’ve got a .35 Whelen. Love it. “Almost” a .375 H&H but 5 rounds instead of 3. It’s my Sitka blacktail rifle during the time when the brown bears are still up and around. Emphatic killing power and next to no meat loss with the right bullet. Best adaptation of the timeless 30-06 cartridge going.

That's a beauty of a rifle. Mind sharing some specs on it?

akaviator wrote:

gbflyer wrote:

aftCG wrote:[quote="Hammer"
I’ve got a .35 Whelen. Love it. “Almost” a .375 H&H but 5 rounds instead of 3. It’s my Sitka blacktail rifle during the time when the brown bears are still up and around. Emphatic killing power and next to no meat loss with the right bullet. Best adaptation of the timeless 30-06 cartridge going.

That's a beauty of a rifle. Mind sharing some specs on it?

Thanks. Working on rifles is my other bad habit. Keeps me sane in the Winter.

Nothing exotic, Remington 700 left hand action, McMillan stock I found on EBay and painted. Chambered the X-Caliber barrel a couple of years ago. Sent to a fellow in WA for Cerakote. It’s been dragged around a good bit and isn’t as purdy today. [emoji1]