M6RV6 wrote:Nice place, tight strip, I can't help my self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just get a MAULE!!!

I was thinking an unloaded Maule (or Bear) would not be worried by that airstrip. The pilot has good cause to be worried, however.

That's a gnarly strip. Everything would have to be perfect, and I would still probably wonder is the reward justifies the risk.

elgoatropo wrote:That's a gnarly strip. Everything would have to be perfect, and I would still probably wonder is the reward justifies the risk.

If one is a true back country pilot, the answer would be a fat YES!. BTW that strip is not that, "gnarly".

Some of the members on here flying cubs, 180's, s7's, Maules, A/C's ,zenairs and what not, demonstrate extraordinary flying skills and would eat that strip/road up for breakfast, and some of them would be crazy enough to wrangle their planes thru the trees and land on the road to the right for brunch!

No go-around that I can see. Vehicle traffic, bottleneck in the middle, tall spruce to generate turbulence. I have no doubt a skilled pilot can make it 99% of the time without a mishap.

What's your idea of gnarly? I'm curious.

elgoatropo wrote:No go-around that I can see. Vehicle traffic, bottleneck in the middle, tall spruce to generate turbulence. I have no doubt a skilled pilot can make it 99% of the time without a mishap.

What's your idea of gnarly? I'm curious.

Order Greg Miller (long props) or Cubdriver video's, now that's gnarly. Makes that strip look like LAX

I have always found that tall trees around a strip moderate turbulence and actually make landings easier. It's just the ride down to the tree tops, that can be a little rough.

I am familiar with the videos above, and you don't usually see these guys sticking their noses into tight spots without a go-around option. That's why they are still alive. Ask Loni and Greg how many planes they have destroyed to make those videos For the majority of us, failure is not an option.

Short reminder: The picture maybe give You the wrong proportions of the strip! Its a one-way lstrip (600 feet) and its 3 % upslope and its ending upon a small road in the end of the strip, elevated 20 feet higher. You will fly into it from the left, over the water, and when You are there, the only option is to land at that strip.

elgoatropo wrote:I am familiar with the videos above, and you don't usually see these guys sticking their noses into tight spots without a go-around option. That's why they are still alive. Ask Loni and Greg how many planes they have destroyed to make those videos For the majority of us, failure is not an option.

There is videos of Greg flying into the strip at his house on BCP, and it is one way, coming through 2 big trees at one end.

Ya, he must have wanted in real bad or his video sales were dropping off.

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I have always found that tall trees around a strip moderate turbulence and actually make landings easier. It's just the ride down to the tree tops, that can be a little rough.

Too many times I've said to my self during a nice crosswind, "Just get me below the trees".

elgoatropo wrote:Ya, he must have wanted in real bad or his video sales were dropping off.

Or... It's his house and he stores his aircraft there.

Zzz wrote:

elgoatropo wrote:Ya, he must have wanted in real bad or his video sales were dropping off.

Or... It's his house and he stores his aircraft there.

If that's the case, he needs to cut some trees before his luck runs out.

elgoatropo wrote:

Zzz wrote:

elgoatropo wrote:Ya, he must have wanted in real bad or his video sales were dropping off.

Or... It's his house and he stores his aircraft there.

If that's the case, he needs to cut some trees before his luck runs out.

Trees are on his neighbors property I believe. Sometimes you do what you gotta do to keep the neighbors happy and you flying your plane from your house, if you are blessed with that privilege.

stinsoner wrote:Well, how to use this short strip - 550 feet, sloped 3%.

So where is this little strip anyhow? Sweden?

Seems pretty straight forward if it's really 600' but judging by the people standing there on the left it certainly does not look like its 600' and uphill. Just judging by the photo it looks more like 250 to the top of the hill by the red barn then downhill again.

You could certainly do it but your going to end up in a pickle if your doing it as a daily fair. Loaded and your going to have problems.

As for the mention of Greg, Lonnie or even Steve Henery doing what they do, yes they would have no problem here but I can guarantee you they would say the same.

Akt

Boys! For sure You have to spot the difference between people and cows before landing at my backyard airstrip in Sweden. The Highland Cattles are waiting for You.... The last picture shows a woman standing (like a pole) in the middle of the lower end of the strip - 600 feet away.

stinsoner wrote:Boys! For sure You have to spot the difference between people and cows before landing at my backyard airstrip in Sweden. The Highland Cattles are waiting for You....

hahahahahahaha. Good response. In some places it is hard to tell the difference even up close.

Zzz wrote:

stinsoner wrote:Boys! For sure You have to spot the difference between people and cows before landing at my backyard airstrip in Sweden. The Highland Cattles are waiting for You....

hahahahahahaha. Good response. In some places it is hard to tell the difference even up close.

Amen!

From the ground photos it seems like a no brainer now...This is a great example of why one would fly over several times low to have a look or walk it. The pic from the air with the shadows looks like it is much less. On the ground its straight forward. Send it!

You could always use a little water if you need...


AKT

The ground photo's seem to confirm that the aerial photo of up and down, is an optical illusion. If it is like stated, a 3% consistent up slope going in. Then 600' is very adequate and safe for someone who can consistently stop their plane in 300'. Pick a calm morning or evening, direct all focus on getting wheels on the ground close to the button and it will be a no brainier, and most important get it on video, so we can put this thread to bed. Just don't get one of those long horn cows mad, then it could get ugly.

Sidewinder wrote:Pick a calm morning or evening, direct all focus on getting wheels on the ground close to the button and it will be a no brainier, and most important get it on video, so we can put this thread to bed. Just don't get one of those long horn cows mad, It could get ugly.

+1

If you can hit your spot every time, then it looks very do-able. I have done one-way strips of similar length and with obstacles on each side. It's not hard on a day with light winds.
The trick is being sure to realise if the approach was getting out of shape with time left to go-around - pick a sensible point of no return and stick by it.

Nice Highland Cattle! Or as a Scot once called them, nice "haaairrry coouw".

elgoatropo wrote:I am familiar with the videos above, and you don't usually see these guys sticking their noses into tight spots without a go-around option. That's why they are still alive. Ask Loni and Greg how many planes they have destroyed to make those videos For the majority of us, failure is not an option.

Well obviously you haven't seen their latest video's. Miller and Habersetzer are still flying the custom Maule and 77 super cub, respectively. Half their video content is doing less than 300' one ways.
Perhaps your in the wrong forum. FrontCountry pilot is were you need to be. They got threads like, Secret wazs to navigate the taxi way maze at metro airports, and How to cope with flap failure when your staring down a 3500' strip in a Cherokee.