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PA1195 wrote:Ok we can go there:

Dave Wiley RIP: https://vb.taylorcraft.org/forum/taylor ... lane-crash and https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Repor ... L&IType=LA It was an owner maintained aircraft and strut fitting failed not the struts.

Addressing lower strut attach fitting potential corrosion issues: https://www.taylorcraft.org/docs/TCRAFT ... 07-002.pdf and https://www.taylorcraft.org/docs/2008-09-18.pdf

Lift strut corrosion issues: https://www.taylorcraft.org/docs/Taylor ... 7-001B.pdf and https://www.taylorcraft.org/docs/2007-16-14.pdf The TCDS holder/factory decided to push this as a means of profit according to those that know the situation after Wiley's fatality. No struts have failed from what I've read. Wag-Aero and Airframes Alaska sell AMOC replacements that terminate the AD.

Gary


Good info, thanks.
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Re: Taylorcraft

Zzz wrote:Good info, thanks.


What most socially correct posters have done is first link Dave Wiley's contribution to the aviation community while noting the two soul fatal accident second. What Dave Wiley apparently did was ignore potential corrosion at critical locations on his aircraft and expose his passenger to that risk. His son has recently offered the aircraft's remains for sale. Not sure what evolved.

Was it ignorance? Was it unintentional? I expect so. We'll never know but the consequences will be with us for a very long time.

Water seeks a low level and that's what the fuselage and fittings can be. Wrap the strut fitting and drain hole with fabric and forget about it was the NTSB's conclusion linked above.

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I fly a '46 Taylorcraft with the A65 on the front. It's an honest plane and a lot of fun to fly. It's a great time builder for tailwheel and not overly complicated. The low fuel burn makes it quite economical as well. Between my father and I, we have had it about 18 years. Cost of ownership has been pretty good. We went through the strut AD mentioned along with some items like new header tank and other common things that come up at inspection. I do not have an electrical system and many don' t. It's one consideration if you are in the market and don't want to hand prop. I cruise at 95mph IAS consistently at 4GPH. The one thing to watch, which I think was mentioned, is your speed very closely when landing. It will float for a day and a half if you are too fast on your approach. With some practice, it's pretty easy to put it on the numbers.

If I was in the market for one, I would look pretty heavily at an 85hp unless the economy of the 65hp was the priority. Its a capable fun plane for the money.
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This thread makes me feel so old! I have one whole hour in a T-Craft, which was brand new back at the time, some 38 years ago. I had been flying the TR182 I owned in partnership and a Super Decathlon whilst taking aerobatics training. The outfit I was taking aerobatics with got the brand spanking new T-Craft in, and it was just too cute to pass up. But after flying airplanes with so much more horsepower, after an hour of flitting about in it with an instructor, I just couldn't get enamored with it. It wasn't the speed, but the lack of climb capability on a warm day off a 5300' MSL airport that dissuaded me. Maybe at lower altitudes than Boulder's, or by myself, it would have been more interesting. But was still cute.

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Not a strut problem, not a fitting problem....a total maintenance problem (or lack thereof)!

https://vb.taylorcraft.org/filedata/fetch?id=149341
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Thanks Hardtail for that pic. I looked in the NTSB stuff but they don't post full analysis prior-2009. When his son had the airframe remains for sale I wanted to ask about the longerons and gear truss condition but it wasn't the appropriate place. Just a quick poke here and there for example.

There is something to be learned from that accident beyond just the failed strut fitting. As noted failed maintenance and parked/flown in weather conditions conducive to corrosion. Not all Taylorcrafts are prone to that failure. I guess Mr. Wiley couldn't tell the problem might exist unlike someone that sees many planes and does frequent recovers.

The right gear that failed locally a year ago while on skis was corroded internally top to bottom and inside all three gear legs. It was EZflap Berle's former plane. The bungee cluster on that gear (and I assume all as mine is) was open to moisture at the top, via the lower SB drain hole, and a hole that faces the brake plate. Not sure about the tapered axle. That gear had a SB drain hole but it was drilled into solid steel and never was tested for pass through.

At the very least the gear should be periodically removed and tap tested or blown through the drain to drive out any loose corrosion particles then treated with anti-corrosion oil. Adding a diagonal leg brace is a good mod.

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Bringing up a thread from the dead...my 41 came with the 65 and I flew it all over, places like the wind rivers, Smiley Creek, Yuma Az, northern Wisconsin, all over the north of Utah like Fremont Island, Promotory point and I loved the fuel burn, but I was having problems with the lack of power at high density altitude. I put on 8.50's, scott 3200 tail wheel after 2 different hard tire scotts and a supposed maule tundra that failed miserably several times. When i started working in Alaska, I was in the middle of a recover in Utah, so I took a month off in June of 2006, finished the recover and put on a 65 that I had. Fortunately the 65 had a cylinder problem...so I fanagled on an O-200-8 that I had enough parts to build. That engine got 4 new cylinders and I slapped on the A-65 74" prop and 5 hours later it was headed to Alaska. When I got it up there, it was time to start upgrading, which included new baffling, paint on the cowling, Ercoupe spinner, VG's and real mufflers from a Champ because even in summer in Alaska you may need heat. My airplane also had dual toe brakes and McCauley wheels for the 8.50's, I can stop and the single pucks are not overwhelming and wanting to put my on my back. My airplane has the short mount and the tail weighs 72#.

One time flying from Big Delta to Wolf lake, I went VFR on top, temp at 14K msl was -8 in May. The biggest improvement was having Merrill Field propeller repitch the prop from 46" to 43", cruise went from 85-90 knots to 104 kts ground speed at 2500 MSL in a square pattern on a calm day out by the Tanana River. The engine was actually able to make rated RPM now. I would fly that airplane about 150 hours in 4 months of summer all over Alaska, Tok for dinner after work? sure, Eagle or Chicken, walk into the lodge for lunch? No problem, a little Glacier tour in the Alaska range before work? Land at the Susitna river strip on the Denali Highway and look at the subsistence caribou remains...done. I knew my limits and was adept at slipping, 800' was my minimum strip length for landing anywhere, take off I was able to get up in one set of runway lights at the Lake hood dirt strip..which I paced off at 250' I never wrecked and I am still trying to get my airplane back in the air since I flew it back from Alaska in 2014.

future modifications I want to do...the big trim tab from a post war airplane and better baffling made from glass/carbon fiber. If you want to know more, head over to the T-craft forum and sign up, lots of good people there. Parts are available and most new are owner produced.

Good luck, Tim
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