Hey fisherman your avatar is pretty fuckin funny.

Fisherman wrote:
Even more incredible, he'll be having a beer in the White House with the Criminal in Chief pretty soon.

Really?

once&futr_alaskaflyer wrote:

Fisherman wrote:
Even more incredible, he'll be having a beer in the White House with the Criminal in Chief pretty soon.

Really?

No, not really. It was a yoke. Not much of one maybe.

Been watching this thread, pretty amazed that some folks actualy feel sorry for the little puke, want to see him rehabilitated. They already tried that, he escaped from a halfway house to continue his life of crime. I hope they throw the little bastard into prison, for a very long time. He can self rehabilitate, or not. If not, he will eventually be shot by a shop, or home owner protecting their property. I really get tired of hearing all the excuses for people like this, he's an adult, throw him in a cell, throw away the key.
Dave

Dave, if it's me your referring to, I don't feel sorry for that kid. I hope he gets all he deserves. I will be more pissed off at the courts if they do the same thing as the Bahamas did and let him off with a slap on the hand. I just don't think a bullet between the eyes is warranted for what he did. And you guys wonder why they have him wearing a bulletproof vest in public.

I don't know who's worse the little girls crying over him on Facebook or you guys wanting to blow him away. If everyone would just ignore this juvenile delinquent, maybe it will go away and I won't need to hear about him anymore.

Jerry

low rider wrote:Hey fisherman your avatar is pretty funny.

Thanks, but since we have ladies reading the site, maybe the above would have sufficed. No offense.

I just got this from one of my clients. It would be a perfect solution considering how backwards things are now.

Jail vs. nursing home - Food for thought:

Let's put the seniors in jail, and the criminals in a nursing home. This way the seniors would have access to showers, hobbies, and walks, they'd receive unlimited free prescriptions, dental and medical treatment, wheel chairs etc. and they'd receive money instead of paying it out. They would have constant video monitoring, so they could be helped instantly ,if they fell, or needed assistance.

Bedding would be washed twice a week, and all clothing would be ironed and returned to them.

A guard would check on them every 20 minutes, and bring their meals and snacks to their cell. They would have family visits in a suite built for that purpose.

They would have access to a library, weight room,spiritual counselling, pool, and education. Simple clothing , shoes, slippers, P.J.'s and legal aid would be free, on request.

Private, secure rooms for all, with an exercise outdoor yard ,with gardens. Each senior could have a P.C. a T.V. radio, and daily phone calls. There would be a board of directors , to hear complaints, and the guards would have a code of conduct, that would be strictly adhered to.

The "criminals" would get cold food, be left all alone, and unsupervised. lights off at 8pm, and showers once a week. Live in a tiny room , and pay $5000.00 per month and have no hope of ever getting out.

Justice for all.

Sir.... That by FAR is the best response to any subject I have ever read on the internet..
And soooo true too.
Ben.

uote="Fisherman"]I just got this from one of my clients. It would be a perfect solution considering how backwards things are now.

Jail vs. nursing home - Food for thought:

Let's put the seniors in jail, and the criminals in a nursing home. This way the seniors would have access to showers, hobbies, and walks, they'd receive unlimited free prescriptions, dental and medical treatment, wheel chairs etc. and they'd receive money instead of paying it out. They would have constant video monitoring, so they could be helped instantly ,if they fell, or needed assistance.

Bedding would be washed twice a week, and all clothing would be ironed and returned to them.

A guard would check on them every 20 minutes, and bring their meals and snacks to their cell. They would have family visits in a suite built for that purpose.

They would have access to a library, weight room,spiritual counselling, pool, and education. Simple clothing , shoes, slippers, P.J.'s and legal aid would be free, on request.

Private, secure rooms for all, with an exercise outdoor yard ,with gardens. Each senior could have a P.C. a T.V. radio, and daily phone calls. There would be a board of directors , to hear complaints, and the guards would have a code of conduct, that would be strictly adhered to.

The "criminals" would get cold food, be left all alone, and unsupervised. lights off at 8pm, and showers once a week. Live in a tiny room , and pay $5000.00 per month and have no hope of ever getting out.

Justice for all.[/quote]

I think what we need is a Devils Island type facility. Perhaps somewhere in the Alaskan chain, and there must be bears..........
Never said I wanted the little puke shot, stated that is probably his destiny. I've arrested many just like him, watched the courts get all emotional about their welfare. Never saw one yet that got turned around, or straightened out, they all end up career criminals. Perhaps I am a bit callous, but I would much rather see the public protected than this kid helped.
Dave

Dave, now "never" is an awful long time! You said "they all end up career criminals". I'm not a career criminal (at least not yet anyway). I think the reason you don't see them rehabilitated is because if they are, they won't see you again. But I do think your Island idea is a great one and the bears are good too. I guess Australia didn't have enough bears and see what happened.

My point is that time mellows a lot more than just bourbon. My ex wife is a detective now and has done work for the FBI. Her and her friend stole a car once in high school. They had it over a week and washed and waxed it and treated it like a baby. She isn't a career criminal but if someone would have shot her it would have saved me a lot of money!

I want to tell you about a couple of kids I have personally know that got in trouble. The first one was my friends, brothers wife's brother? Anyway, they asked me if I would give him a job because he had just got out of jail. I agreed. Well, I was supposed to pour a driveway and then go Deer Hunting. When I was on my way to work my daughter called and had left some stuff in my car so I told the crew we would do it when I got back and canceled the mud. The kid wasn't there and I didn't think much about it.

When I got home, there was a car sitting in the driveway with the engine running. My door was still locked and I went inside. When I went into my room I saw that a Thompson Contender I had sitting on my bed was gone and my rifle had been moved. When I walked down the stairs this little dirtbag was standing there with a knife in his hand. It really took me by surprise and then I asked him "what the f--- are you going to do with that, stab me?". Then I explained that if he didn't put the knife away I was going to put in in a particular part of his body and pull it out sideways. He got a real stupid look on his face and then folded the knife up and put it in his pocket. I escorted him out the back door with a few choice remarks. My language used to be a lot worse than it is now .

This kid was an absolute low life and I had every right to kill him if I saw fit. I didn't. Last I heard he has three kids and has a job at a local building supply. He got two felony's out of the deal and spent a little over two years in prison. Is he rehabilitated? I have no idea and I really don't care. I have enough problems in my life that I don't need to worry about how others live.

The next kid is a girl I taught in Sunday School. She was 12 at the time and a real good kid. She came from a great family and lived in a nice neighborhood. Well, she ended up falling in love and marrying some scumbag. You might have see her and her family on the Dr. P--- show. Well she somehow got talked into driving the getaway car for her husband and they robbed several banks around here. Is she a career criminal? No, I don't think so. She was a sweet naive kid who just did some really, really stupid stuff. I don't think she had ever been in trouble before of after the robberies. She could have definitely been shot for what she was doing and the police would be completely justified since her husband was armed.

Don't think that just because a kid shows up on TV that they are going to be rich off what they did. This poor girl's family was supposed to be helped by the people who exploited their daughter on TV. They weren't, and they have lost everything they own trying to keep their daughter out of jail. Their house is still vacant.

I agree that some people are a total waste of flesh. Problem is that it is hard to tell by looking down your sight. We have to rely on the courts and that is really frustrating sometimes. But that is what separates us from the other animals. There is no answer for this kind of behavior and I have no answers.

Jerry

Interesting article that looks a little closer at the possible reasons why CHM was able to make such a long XC with no formal flight training:

http://www.salon.com/technology/ask_the_pilot/2010/07/19/barefoot_bandit

Still targeted at the layperson, but interesting nonetheless.

As a parent of a young man starting to come of age, I have followed this thread with interest. How does a kid get so screwed up? Parents...or the lack thereof? Wonder how we'd feel if he was one of our kids. If he's just a rotten kid now, chances are he'll really be a "trained professional" when the prison system gets done with him.

Obviously a highly intelligent individual (no, I didn't say smart), a real shame.

GB

OK Jerry, I suppose there are a few success stories out there, but as I said, I'm a little jaded in my old age. What really ticks me off about this one is his flaunting attitude, posting his exploits, garnering a fan club. Now, what is it they do with hooligans in Singapor? Can't remember, but it did have promise.
Dave

denalipilot wrote:http://www.adn.com/2011/04/08/1799908/lawyers-in-barefoot-bandit-case.html

if this kid cuts a deal for only four years of a possible 4-12 sentence, we should be able to land on beaches in New York and get off scott free, by donating book sales to N.Y. Parks and Rec,

I thought if you used a gun( which he did at least twice) you got a minimum of 10 years.
Some one somewhere is cutting him slack, As far as I'm concernd he should get the maximum and any book or movie deals should go directly to those he stole from.

How do you steal a pistol in British Columbia? This is as confusing as Fathers Day in Detroit.

Tim

dirtstrip wrote:

denalipilot wrote:http://www.adn.com/2011/04/08/1799908/lawyers-in-barefoot-bandit-case.html

if this kid cuts a deal for only four years of a possible 4-12 sentence, we should be able to land on beaches in New York and get off scott free, by donating book sales to N.Y. Parks and Rec,

Easy solution....

We pool some cash,, bail the SOB out of jail,,, bring him to Johnson Creek and use him for entertainment. Tie him up to a branch and make him a community Pinata,,, then Rob has something to aim at for the dinner bell routine. If he is still moving then he is the target for the spot landing contest.... First pilot to break his ribs wins the chicken dinner.

Aw , never mind,,, I was just dreaming again.......................

Stol wrote:

dirtstrip wrote:

denalipilot wrote:http://www.adn.com/2011/04/08/1799908/lawyers-in-barefoot-bandit-case.html

if this kid cuts a deal for only four years of a possible 4-12 sentence, we should be able to land on beaches in New York and get off scott free, by donating book sales to N.Y. Parks and Rec,

Easy solution....

We pool some cash,, bail the SOB out of jail,,, bring him to Johnson Creek and use his for entertainment. Tie him up to branch and make his a community Pinata,,, then Rob has something to aim at for the dinner bell routine. If he is still moving then he is the target for the spot landing contest.... First pilot to break his ribs wins the chicken dinner.

Aw , never mind,,, I was just dreaming again.......................

And let the wolves finish him off