Call me a Luddite, but I still carry paper charts. I have never had a battery die on a paper chart.

Three reasons for this ground based radar/GPS jamming test:
1- Watch to see how many planes get lost during this test. They will then do a calculation based on this info and figure out how much to charge us for GPS service in the future.
2- Use this info to establish the Northern Electronic Wall between Canada and the USA as talked about by Trump.
3- Confuse the enemy and send their shit back to them. I wonder if they could turn the Walmart supply ships around and send them back to China?

I've had some weird GPS issues in this area before but not during that notam time. I was heading north at night in the vicinity of McNeal Island last fall. I was happily following the magenta line on foreflight. For about 5 minutes my north up track pointed east on both the IPad and my phone. I know this area well and realized this new false track would have had me heading toward the SeaTac airspace I was skirting.

If I didn't know exactly where I was and could see the lights of where I was going I would have kept following the magenta line and busted class B. I hope this test doesn't get anyone killed.

My only rule of thumb is, "Never let your thumb get lost."
What ever is on the chart, in front of your thumb,
should be out in front of your nose.

Chris C

wannabe wrote:My only rule of thumb is, "Never let your thumb get lost."
What ever is on the chart, in front of your thumb,
should be out in front of your nose.

Chris C

Hahahahaha!

And depending on where one was flying, there were moments of absolute terror when thumb and nose did NOT match!



Gump

Gump, is your picture Point Hope before they moved the plane into town and made a building out of it?

volzalum wrote:Gump, is your picture Point Hope before they moved the plane into town and made a building out of it?

Haha! No, Larry Higbee had the airplane house in Point Hope. An Armstrong-Whitworth Argosy converted into his living room/pool table room if I remember right.



My avatar pic is from Kivalina. I took the photo Spring 2002 or 2003. It was a Brooks Fuel DC-4 that was landing there April 1995, and got the left gear snagged by a snow berm and ran off the edge of the runway. It sat between the runway and the village for years.

I heard through the grapevine that they finally drug the carcass down to the beach to try and shore up their seawall just a couple years ago.



Gump

On checking, my photo was taken April 28, 2003. Same day I took this one of Russell Adams of Kivalina, when I was flying for Yute Air out of Kotzebue.

Ok, every time I saw your picture it reminded me of the Point Hope plane. My parents were teachers there in the early 80's so I was there a few years in elementary. Then spent summers in the artic circle to pay for my spending money during college. I actually did a ground school class when I was in Barrow which kicked off my pilots license. I completed my check ride at Merril Field after doing most of my flight school in TN. My parents spent time in Noatak, Bethel, Wainwright, Barrow, and Point Hope. They are actually in Point Hope again this year putting in a final year before retirement. My last time in point Hope was in 1996, and it was different with the paved runway. I was in Noatak a few days in 2004. In and out of Kotzebue several times, spent several nights in the Kotzebue airport waiting for weather to clear.

Gump

That Larry Higbee's airplane house in Point Hope would have been the
high rent district for Mack and the boys in Steinbeck's Cannery Row.

It could have also been the pride of the hill up on Tortilla Flat for Danny and the
boys as they drank wine around his round table. Could have kept Danny's house from burning down at the end. Ah... but then, the Arthurian cycle would have never
gone full circle.

Keep it in Trim

Volzalum, I might have flown your folks, and/or you, either in Barrow or out of Kotz. I hauled a lot of schoolteachers out to the villages.

Your parents probably know Larry Higbee from Point Hope. He was there for decades, and his kids grew up and went to school there. Last I heard, Larry left Point Hopeless and moved back to Arcata, CA, where he was originally from.

Gump

That Larry Higbee's airplane house in Point Hope would have been the
high rent district for Mack and the boys in Steinbeck's Cannery Row.

It was high rent in Point Hopeless too!

My memory is shorter than my Johnson most days, but now that I'm thinking about it, Larry may have had a hot tub in that wreck too.

Lots of Stienbeckian adventures up that way!!!

Gump

Yes, we knew Larry. When we were in Point Hope (1980-82), it was still out in the tundra near the boneyard. Dad was the basketball coach for Point Hope 1980-82 and then Barrow from 1982-84. Then we were back in Tennessee until my sister and I graduated high school and they went back up to Barrow from 1990-96 (I would go do construction in the summers) and then back to TN and then back up to Bethel and Noatak in the early 2000's, then back to TN a few years. Then Dad did Selawik two yeas about 2012, then Wainwright 2 years, then Mom decided to join for 1 last year this year in Point Hope.

Rex Rock had Mom fly out with them last week on his company's PC-12/45 to Anchorage for a day trip. She enjoyed that. But yes, if you were flying in those years, you probably transported us. Especially if you ever handled any of the Basketball charters.

Sorry for the topic drift.

hotrod180 wrote:

Cary wrote:I have a friend directly involved in the testing program. He says it's classified. I don't know if he's joshing me or not.

FWIW the VOR / DME location identified in the NOTAM is on or adjacent to the Navy Submarine Base at Bangor.
Home of the west coast fleet of Ohio-class nuclear missile boats (aka boomers).

Minus the one pointing at North Korea off their waters...

Anyhoo, I always carry at least the VFR sectional for the area I'm visiting, particularly if it's in the mountains or remote places. Electronics fail.

Timbuk2 wrote:

hotrod180 wrote:

Cary wrote:I have a friend directly involved in the testing program. He says it's classified. I don't know if he's joshing me or not.

FWIW the VOR / DME location identified in the NOTAM is on or adjacent to the Navy Submarine Base at Bangor.
Home of the west coast fleet of Ohio-class nuclear missile boats (aka boomers).

Minus the one pointing at North Korea off their waters...

Anyhoo, I always carry at least the VFR sectional for the area I'm visiting, particularly if it's in the mountains or remote places. Electronics fail.

Me too. I also have Foreflight on 3 devices, my Mini 4, my old Mini, and my iPhone SE. All can be used without the GPS, like paper, but I keep older paper available for in the mountains.

Cary