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Ending a commercial creer because of getting blind on one eye??

Have a good friend who lost one eye, still flying for an airline and is also an airshow pilot.
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I called myself OK for light sport but didn't trust the system for waiver and didn't want to have failed and be shot down completely. I had not had good luck asking the FAA for things. Like courierguy says, sometimes it is better to apologize than to ask.
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[email protected] wrote:Ending a commercial creer because of getting blind on one eye??

Have a good friend who lost one eye, still flying for an airline and is also an airshow pilot.




I am sure some one eyed pilots can do ok on demonstrated ability. But so can a lot of drunk drivers. The loss of depth perception is one tool that is gone. I imagine can do just fine for an airline with a co-pilot - But sorry, airshow pilot one eyed is just a death wish.
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Flyhound wrote:I've owned trikes and tailwheel aircraft. My last plane was a 182 with a Texas Skyways engine conversion. It was actually the plane that JFK junior flew before he bought the Piper Saratoga that got the better of him. That 182 was capable and noteworthy because of past ownership, but it wasn't fun. It was also thirsty as can be. I sold my share in that plane (it was a 6 way partnership) and bought a 180 Hp Maule MX7-180-C. I fly the Maule a lot more than I flew the 182, I smile more when I'm flying it, and it's cheaper to operate. I never liked the plastic interior pieces in Cessna aircraft and I had a crush on Maule taildraggers for years before buying one. Some folks with 182s can go places I won't attempt with my Maule, but that's more pilot skill than airplane. I'm just an average Joe in the cockpit. The Maule takes me and my other toys (like bikes and camping gear) all the places I want to go and I enjoy every minute of flying it. I like the option of doing wheel, or 3 point landings, and I like looking at my plane when it's parked. I've had pilots of private jets come look at my Maule on the ramp, then offer me a tour of their plane. A 182 isn't likely to generate that kind of exchange. So, it isn't about capability for me, is all about the fun factor a particular plane offers, and that calculation is personal. I have the plane that makes me smile. I hope you can say the same whatever you wind up with.

That would be a interesting log book with Kennedy’s signature in it.
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¨ I imagine can do just fine for an airline with a co-pilot¨

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Our Captains must all pass to the same standards. Just imagine the Captain or F/O depending on the other one for depth perception.

As far as landings go, the times we flew together (some checkrides) he performed above average.

By the way, Gliding takes some depth perception, he managed to put a jetliner with a dual flameout scratch free to a stop. Off airport.

Aerobatics/airshows...... after 30 years of doing them I understand he has had enough of them. Glad to hear that.

To remain on the subject sorry, he also loves taidragers. :)
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[email protected] wrote:Ending a commercial creer because of getting blind on one eye??

Have a good friend who lost one eye, still flying for an airline and is also an airshow pilot.




I am sure some one eyed pilots can do ok on demonstrated ability. But so can a lot of drunk drivers. The loss of depth perception is one tool that is gone. I imagine can do just fine for an airline with a co-pilot - But sorry, airshow pilot one eyed is just a death wish.


Actually, because our eyes are close together, we lose most depth perception at about an arms length. From that point on we use other factors to determine distance, depth, etc. I have flown with two pilots who had monocular(one eye) vision in transport type aircraft a well as small GA aircraft, it was not an issue or apparent.
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Exactly.

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In any case, the only reason I made related comments was to avoid someone here to think he had to forget about an aviation career because of loosing sight on one eye.
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Wheels coming off this thread. Haven't checked it in a few days and am trying to backtrace the tangent of one-eyed pilots.
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Here it wasn't a medical issue but a FSDO doctor issue. I have known crops dusters with one eye and there was Willey Post. Here most got no waiver for anything for a time. With my wrap sheet I elected not to try. Some pilots shopped around the midwest for another FSDO.
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Zzz wrote:Wheels coming off this thread. Haven't checked it in a few days and am trying to backtrace the tangent of one-eyed pilots.


What fun is it if we have to stay on the path?
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Zzz wrote:Wheels coming off this thread. Haven't checked it in a few days and am trying to backtrace the tangent of one-eyed pilots.
I'm pretty sure that you don't need two eyes to see if your wheels are still on. So long as the wings are still there...
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Zzz wrote:Wheels coming off this thread. Haven't checked it in a few days and am trying to backtrace the tangent of one-eyed pilots.




I have also heard a few pilots say they would give their left testicle for a certain plane!! :D

Not sure if they would be required to get a SODA or not tho :lol:
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Zzz wrote:Wheels coming off this thread. Haven't checked it in a few days and am trying to backtrace the tangent of one-eyed pilots.




I have also heard a few pilots say they would give their left testicle for a certain plane!! :D

Not sure if they would be required to get a SODA or not tho :lol:




Imagine the weight savings too!!
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Wheels are off Zane :D

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Zzz wrote:Wheels coming off this thread. Haven't checked it in a few days and am trying to backtrace the tangent of one-eyed pilots.
contactflying wrote:Here it wasn't a medical issue but a FSDO doctor issue. I have known crops dusters with one eye and there was Willey Post. Here most got no waiver for anything for a time. With my wrap sheet I elected not to try. Some pilots shopped around the midwest for another FSDO.


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Ah, but what you’re failing to take into account in that deep snow dissertation is that VERY large NOSE ski on the 206. Which provides huge additional float, and really helps keep the prop up out of the snow. Really, you should go out with someone with a 206 on FliLite 4000. Note that I did NOT suggest a 206 on c-3600 skis, BTW. One of my massively stuck stories involves that setup..... But, on Fli Lites, I’d put a good strong light 206 up against a 185 most days in deep stuff.

Of course, they’re scarce as hens teeth.

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Ok. You've got my attention. I am willing to leave my incredulity at the door and tag along in a 206 on FliLite 4000s. Wait, maybe I will leave it with my cub pilots and have them escort us with shovels and snowshoes. :lol:

In all seriousness, I would like to see the setup in action in challenging conditions. One of the issues in deep snow with the Landes GLH3000s or LH4000s on TDs is the propensity for the plane to lose it's floatation when there is any lateral translation like in a slow turn or on a side slope. I do wonder how well a ND on skis stays on top in similar conditions. I look forward to learning more.
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Ah, but what you’re failing to take into account in that deep snow dissertation is that VERY large NOSE ski on the 206. Which provides huge additional float, and really helps keep the prop up out of the snow. Really, you should go out with someone with a 206 on FliLite 4000. Note that I did NOT suggest a 206 on c-3600 skis, BTW. One of my massively stuck stories involves that setup..... But, on Fli Lites, I’d put a good strong light 206 up against a 185 most days in deep stuff.

Of course, they’re scarce as hens teeth.

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Ok. You've got my attention. I am willing to leave my incredulity at the door and tag along in a 206 on FliLite 4000s. Wait, maybe I will leave it with my cub pilots and have them escort us with shovels and snowshoes. :lol:

In all seriousness, I would like to see the setup in action in challenging conditions. One of the issues in deep snow with the Landes GLH3000s or LH4000s on TDs is the propensity for the plane to lose it's floatation when there is any lateral translation like in a slow turn or on a side slope. I do wonder how well a ND on skis stays on top in similar conditions. I look forward to learning more.


I was a serious skeptic as well. Till I saw some of the lakes that Joe Mattie trapped on the Yukon Flats, the area that I worked, and so was operating in on skis as well. Then, I took a ride with Jay Hudson in Hudson Air's TU 206 on those skis. Wasn't challenging conditions where we landed, but I was impressed with how easy it was to turn around.

I wouldn't sell a 185 to move to a 206 just for ski ops, and the 3350 limitation on gross weight is a significant issue for a 206, assuming you were to actually abide by it..... :wink: .

Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of those skis around on 206s, so you just don't see them much. And, of course, that nose ski adds even more weight.....see the previous paragraph :roll: .

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This NW airplane on skis works reasonable well :wink:

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The TW airplanes are fun as well; I could go either way, I'm happy just to be out and play in the snow :lol:

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TAILDRAGGER

Taildragger, I hate your guts,
I have the license , ratings and such
But to make you go straight is driving me nuts.
With hours of teaching and the controls in my clutch
It takes a little rudder, easy, that's too much.

You see, I learned to fly in a tricycle gear
With one up front and two in the rear.
She was sleek and clean and easy to steer
But this miserable thing with tires and struts
Takes a little rudder, easy, that's too much.

It demands your attention on the take-off roll
Or it'll head towards Jones's as you pour on the coal.
Gotta hang loose, don't over control.

This wicked little plane is just too much
With a lot of zigzagging and words obscene
I think I've mastered this slippery machine.
It's not that bad if you have the touch
Just a little rudder, easy, that's too much.

I relax for a second and from the corner of my eye,
I suddenly realize with a gasp and a cry
That's my own tail that's going by.
You ground looping wreck; I hate your guts,
Give a little rudder, Great Scott — THAT'S TOO MUCH!
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