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Re: TU206G vs Newer T206H

Thank you, Peter!… I’ll look into that.
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Re: TU206G vs Newer T206H

peterdillon wrote:My experience is mostly seaplane so you have a different mission. As far a durability our experience puts the 550 first then the T540 Lyc and the IO520 and lastly the turbo 520. The 520's were certified long ago when they only had to make a percentage of advertised power and the prop efficiency at 2850 rpm is not as great as it is on the 550 or the H model running at 2700 RPM. No matter what the books say there is a huge difference in performance. With the same heavy load at low elevation the G or F model with a 550 will be the first off the water or off your shorter strip mainly due to its lower empty weight and raw HP. Wing X will get you 3800 gross. For that purpose they are probably the most desirable. The bad news is most of those models of 206 were used commercially back in the day and good luck finding a low time, corrosion free, NDH with a low time 550. The H model has the same engine performance with good reliability and the only real issue is empty weight. A lot of that weight is in the interior so with back and or mid row seats out that changes things quite a bit.
A low time minty type G model with a 550 if you can find one is way overpriced to a H model that is 25 years newer in my opinion. Went through that whole scenario last year and went to the H model.


Thanks for the info - are you saying the back seats in the H weigh more than the G model? So maybe the difference isn't much after all. The G I looked at was like 2,209 - newer H models seem to be around 2,350. It seems conceivable that the rear most seat weighs 25lbs more than the G? I'm opening to remove some interior components as well to get it down even further.
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AZ Flyer wrote:I was faced with a similar decision a couple of years ago. Here is my thoughts and experience:

My regular mission is flying from Flagstaff,which in the summer sees 10,000 foot density altitude, to Phoenix and back. … that is for my business, but wanted an airplane to use camping in backcountry strips also.

I ended up finding a corrosion free Hangar queen, which was a 206F model normally aspirated with a factory floatplane kit and Robertson STOL. I replaced the engine and all accessories, I went with an “I owe” 550 and a Voyager prop. My empty weight is 2000 pounds and useful is1600. … an H model would’ve cost another hundred thousand dollars or more and probably have had a midtime engine.

No problem off the pavement in Flagstaff in the middle of summer, I usually fly down to Phoenix with a near full useful load of coffee and cold brew, but return more than half empty, even when it’s 105° in the afternoon, it seems to hop off the runway pretty quickly, my main challenge is cylinder head temperatures, which usually in the summer has me limiting climb rates to around 500 feet per minute.

I initially thought I wanted air-conditioning and was going to get one of the remote ice units for the back. … I may be wrong but when it’s over triple digits, it takes a while for even a car to cool down, I wonder how much more comfortable you would be on the ramp with AC for the first 10 minutes anyways, … even with limiting my climb rate in 10 minutes or so im up at a much cooler altitude, … I never did get around to trying a cooling unit.

If you get an H model with a turbo and AC, you’re gonna have a very heavy bird, besides wing tips, you may want to consider a Sportsman STOL kit :)


Sounds like you have a great airplane! How's the air flow in the summer time? My Cessna 400 without AC in the summer time would make a stable person puke - it's that miserable. Do you park your airplane in the shade in Phoenix in the summer time? Or just get in and go?
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No shade, just a tie down space so I can keep a car at DVT.
… high wing with window open and prop blast is barely tolerable in the summer! … I had a low wing TB 21 back in the day… That thing was a solar oven in the summer :-)
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Maybe switch to a Beaver they are quite a bit cooler.

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The H model had to meet the 22G seat and track requirements. So all the seats are much heavier than the G model. The seat track is also larger. Right now Im working on a B model. The engine quit after takeoff and the pilot put it into a field at Gross. The Nose gear failed, Nose dug in, and it almost went over. The forces pushed the pilot seat down and bent the seat track and floor. Pilot was uninjured.
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Re: TU206G vs Newer T206H

I recently purchased a TU206G.

The turbo issue is very much a matter of preference. Lots of competing opinions on the internet, but what I did was resort to a simple pro/con matrix and decided for myself that way. Turns out, the turbo is better for me. Yeah, the fuel bills will make your eyes water sometimes, but the power is nice and flying high out of the turbulence with great ground speeds when you want to get out the region for a work or family trip is fantastic. It very much depends on your priorities and mission profile.

My main missions priorities are heavy back country camping, business trips, and family vacations within the western states. So far, it's been an excellent fit.
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HuskyCountry wrote:
peterdillon wrote:Thanks for the info - are you saying the back seats in the H weigh more than the G model? So maybe the difference isn't much after all. The G I looked at was like 2,209 - newer H models seem to be around 2,350. It seems conceivable that the rear most seat weighs 25lbs more than the G? I'm opening to remove some interior components as well to get it down even further.


FWIW, my third row seats weigh in at 20.8lbs combined with leather. The POH calls for a bit more. The 206G will have an edge on useful load, mine is a bit porky with the cargo pod, oxygen, etc., so the delta isn't quite as large. The prices on a cherry 206G can be pretty high, close to an older H model as you mentioned.

That said, until Cessna makes a major change on the 206, like a diesel engine, FADEC control, etc., I will continue to view the G model as superior in almost every way. It's astonishing to me that's it's 2024 and aircraft are still produced with engines and engine controls which were designed before many of our parents were born.

The TSIO-520-M makes rated power at 2700rpm vs 2850 for some other variants.
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Bump on this topic: just finished our first (very extensive) annual on our new to us 01 T206. New W&B with stock landing gear/tires and rear bench (35.2 lbs) & two middle seats (28.6 each) removed is 2203.6 empty wt and 1396.4 useful=3600 lbs. BTW; weighed removed seats independently to verify that book #s were indeed correct. They are substantial.

Our 01 might be slightly lighter: G500 avionics, lighter new carpet and no wheel pants/brackets with stock tires/wheels.

She's going to be a fun machine. Next stop; get set up for LOP.
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I thought I heard that Cessna took the U-206H to 3800 lbs gross weight. Is that restricted to just the latest models or have I been listening to the wrong people, as usual? #-o
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I haven't checked into the add on/mod/ for 3800 as 3600 works fine for us; but, I've read somewhere that there is (I believe) a mod for the additional 200 lb gross. Our very good partner wants to stay stock and since we have the Husky on 31s for rough stuff, we're OK with stock.

Also, Mike; I stumbled onto a lot of info for the 2026 AK trip we're planning. I just have to figure out how to organize it.
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mtv wrote:I thought I heard that Cessna took the U-206H to 3800 lbs gross weight. Is that restricted to just the latest models or have I been listening to the wrong people, as usual? #-o

The latest T206H has the higher gross weight, or ones with the flint tips.
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Re: TU206G vs Newer T206H

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mtv wrote:I thought I heard that Cessna took the U-206H to 3800 lbs gross weight. Is that restricted to just the latest models or have I been listening to the wrong people, as usual? #-o

The latest T206H has the higher gross weight, or ones with the flint tips.


I was aware of the Flint tips. What I thought I'd heard was that Cessna increased the GW on the newer ones. Can that be retrofitted to earlier H models?

And, BTW, Wipaire's IO 550 mod for 206 F an G also provides 3800 pound GW, but only on Wip floats.
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Mike, I found several sources that state T206H gross wt enhanced 189 lbs to 3789 in 2016. Don't know what enhanced means other than 189 lb increase in gross wt.
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