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Re: Flying & owning a Maule Long wing vs Cesna 180

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I agree with all the Maule owners who have chosen not to replay. [-X We can see this stuff coming a mile away. 8)
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maulewaco wrote:Then how come on the 2014 valdez and other videos you can see a stock 180 t/o in 150 feet and land in that or a bit more. What are the maules doing? Why do you guys have big tires on your maule. Because you need AOA in a maule to even start to make it work and that is a mod. A stock 180 will beat a maule all day long. Have you jumped from one to the other then start loading them up to gross. You get what you pay for is right. That is why a 180 costs more than a Maule. Like I said before I had a real nice M7 long wing and after my flight testing I now own a 180H. The hardest part was to addmit to myself after all the years I used to say "Just buy a Maule". :shock:


OK Wako, Put the whiskey down :roll:
Sounds to me like a Name change is in order! Tell us a bit more about this Apples to Apples comparison you have done? 1st let's hear some specifics on the test Model? What year/model vs what year/model? Mods? Seems to me the M-7 was pretty Stock? How about the 180? Seems like the 180 has big tires vs stock 8.50s on the Maule? How about gear? 185 gear? How about Props? Seem to remember the Maule with the STOCK Prop & the 180 with 88" seaplane prop? How about interior, Seem to remember the Maule with all stock interior & the 180 with Atlee Dodge jump seats , no backseat? How about any other mods that you forgot to mention in this APPLES vs APPLES comparison. How about tailwheels? Brakes? Test Payloads? Seems that the AOA issue you mention is a bit skewed in your comparison contradicting your above quote. Value? We will see if you do as good on your 180 when you sell it as you did on your Maule! If you like the 180 better that is fine, but lets make sure the test perameters are fair since you feel the need to BASH Maules with you new found love of a modded Cessna 180. I bit my tongue as long as possible, but think we need to better understand your observations! :P

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Zane, you need to add an emoticon of a little guy pouring himself a drink, putting his feet up, and sitting back to watch the show. That would be me. :)

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Re: Flying & owning a Maule Long wing vs Cesna 180

Darinh wrote:Posting this for a friend:

I think this one has 210 hp less than the 185. C150 with Bush STOL kit and 6's all around... not quite as prestigious as an Ercoupe but none the less....
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This was not me that landed this fine specimen of an aircraft at these locations but rather one of the Legends of the Bitterroot who, for now, shall remain nameless. I don't recommend trying this in your 150... I know I never would.

Mucho props to this masked crusader, whoever he is. He's gettin every bit outta that 150/5's. [emoji1]
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Re: Flying & owning a Maule Long wing vs Cesna 180

I quit :shock:
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So can someone explain to me why having jump seats in the 180 would change anything about an apple to apple comparison? Ok they will be a little lighter, but is it something that is going to make a 180 take off so much faster vs a maule??? Ok so hurt feelings aside we all know that there is no perfect plane... some swear by maule others cessna they are both great flying machines but designed for a slightly different purpose. The maule a plane that could get you into the backcountry with a respectable load the cessna a machine that you could stuff anything in fly away with and when in the hands of a good pilot go anywhere a loaded maule can.

yeah I am biased... :D
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Re: Flying & owning a Maule Long wing vs Cesna 180

Enjoying the read and was wondering why Cessna dosn't offer a Tailwheel option anymore? Seems so many like the 180/185 there would still be a market for it.
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OregonMaule wrote:...I'm not surprised I have not seen more pics of y'all at Simmons. That is a BIG BALLS strip.


Rob,

Who's BIG BALLS would you like to see a picture of? The stock C150 or the stock C182 at Simonds... I've got both (not big balls..., pictures). In fact, I am pretty sure I have video of both too (again, airplanes, not balls). Not quite sure what ball size has to do with anything though.... In these stock airplanes I think its much more to do with skill. Only mods on either of these birds is a STOL kit (Bush on the 150 and Sportsman on the 182). In fact, the 182 has a 1500 hour stock O470 that was overhauled before I was born!

I will be the first to admit that anyone who has landed Simonds (or any of the Big Creek 4 for that matter) in any airplane has skills beyond mine and deserves kudos. I respect anyone who can put an airplane down on that postage stamp. But, and this is a big but.... Skills to do it in a stock C150 is bordering on otherworldly. I flew over it in September in my 180 and there's no way I'm doing that anytime soon. I have no doubt that my 180 will get in and out without a problem but it will be with someone else at the yoke.

I'm cleaning my garage so I can park my new truck in there so y'all are going to have to wait for the pics for a bit. Sorry
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Is the fishing great enough at Simonds for this to even matter? Also, please no pictures of balls. ;)
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Here is the 150 at Simonds. I'd like to reiterate that these are posted for a friend (I know... a friend, cough, cough.... right?. But really, if I had done this I would claim it) and only to prove that it can be done in something other than a maule or supercub... although I'm pretty sure that in Mexico they would call this pilot LOCO! You'd have to be, right? He is a great pilot though, really.

I have never been to Simonds and consequently don't know if the fishing is any good. Its awesome at Cabin Creek though. If anyone cares to see the 182 at Simonds I can probably scratch those pictures up but I'd rather not.

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RanchPilot wrote:Zane, you need to add an emoticon of a little guy pouring himself a drink, putting his feet up, and sitting back to watch the show. That would be me. :)

I love intelligent discussions about different types of planes almost as much as I love planes themselves.


+1

Also need emoticon of making and eating popcorn... :D 8) :D \:D/
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Re: Flying & owning a Maule Long wing vs Cesna 180

Just get an Ercoupe! :roll:
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Re: Flying & owning a Maule Long wing vs Cesna 180

Damn that's as crazy as a Mooney at soldier bar! Bunch of nutty pilots!
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piperpainter wrote:Damn that's as crazy as a Mooney at soldier bar! Bunch of nutty pilots!


Yes, I was thinking of your video Bryan when I was posting those pics.
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Pretty impressive! Reminds me of this classic:

http://youtu.be/r3DpS4r_0_Q
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Re: Flying & owning a Maule Long wing vs Cesna 180

Leighc46 wrote:C185 in Simonds in June 2014. Watch video http://vimeo.com/99490998.


I shared this video on our Facebook page late wednesday night after it was posted here in this thread. I think it had 100 plays in 4 months. It's since gone majorly viral, and has nearly half a million plays. :shock:

Congrats, Leigh! I hope you're okay with the attention. 8)
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Leighc46 wrote:C185 in Simonds in June 2014. Watch video http://vimeo.com/99490998.


I shared this video on our Facebook page late wednesday night after it was posted here in this thread. I think it had 100 plays in 4 months. It's since gone majorly viral, and has nearly half a million plays. :shock:

Congrats, Leigh! I hope you're okay with the attention. 8)


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MauleWaco, I was not paying attention, I went to look at Ebay and someone hit the buy now while I was looking Sumbitch!! Best deal on a Maule in a long time and I was sleeping!! Dammit, Dammit.
I've only been in 1 - 180/1 time, but owned 3 185's,4 206's and a M6 Maule, I think the 185 and 206 are 2 of the best work horses and freight trucks out there!! bar none. When I had them I flew the crap out of my M6, I'm a Maule pilot, never did like flying the Cessna's, Just me!!
Now I'm a little bit guy so I really never had to much of a problem with the Maule other than having to rebuild the seat a time or 2!! 6'3" and around 300 most of the time. Tight squeeze, yes but worth it for me. Just me but I could do things with the Maule I could never do with the Cessna's, again just me!!
Since then I have moved on!! upward and onward?? Broussard and a Wilga, Hell i'm even looking at a Lake now!!??
Sure would have been nice to get that M7 and a set of 2790's on it, would have had less into it then trying a Lake!
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