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Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:04 am

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Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:58 pm

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Finished the right wing Sportsman and WingX mods over the last couple days..

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Drilling and final riveting of the leading edges...

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Leading edge done and setting up for the extension...

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Setting the extension in place and marking it for hole transfers for screws..

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I used a combination of intersecting lines and a hole finder for the screw locations.

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Marked for aileron cutout...

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Extension was removed, final drilled, aileron cutout trimmed, set back on and the trailing edge trimmed for the wingtip to end of aileron length then riveted for the final time..

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Last thing to do was get the aileron gap seals fitted for the Sportsman...

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Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:39 pm

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gbflyer wrote:Wings off seems like a great time to install the kit. Good thinking on the owners part!


Amen! I helped install a Sportsman kit with the wings on.....LOTS of Up/Down on ladders. Good leg workout, though.

Nice workmanship, Brian, and great documentation.

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:54 pm

1958 Cessna 182 mods turned project...

Put the right wing away and brought in the left wing... Just a repeat of the same things done to the right wing but with more trimming for crap hanging off it...

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Already got that silly stainless steel strap installed on the front spar where the wing strut attaches.. those 3/16 cherry max rivets are a colossal PITA to pull...

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Nose blocks on... time to fit skins...

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In addition to all the inspection ports that have to be trimmed out you also have to cut a notch to fit the pitot tube...

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The landing light section also gets cut out and extra pieces installed there for lens retention..

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The stall warning switch gets removed for the skin of the original leading edge modified like so and a doubler skin riveted on..

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The switch itself gets relocated to the new cuff.. the angle of this is completely changed hence the big cutout of the original leading edge to clear the switch body...

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Once the landing light area gets trimmed out these fiberglass lens retainers get riveted in place..

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Then the lens gets trimmed to fit the hole..

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And here is the notch cutout for the pitot...

Happy New year...

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Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:08 pm

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We actually finished the Sportsman cuff and WingX extensions yesterday.. Waiting on fuel tanks, will not be getting those in the shop until mid February..

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Hooking up the stall switch before riveting on the leading edge cuff.

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Cuff installed.

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landing light lens retainer fitted...

Will update this thread as painting and other parts come in..

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Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:30 am

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Selkirk cowling showed up....

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Nice quality Carbon Fiber.. [emoji857]

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Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:19 pm

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Brian, is that new cowl lighter than the original? If so, by how much?

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Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:15 am

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G44 wrote:Brian, is that new cowl lighter than the original? If so, by how much?

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The following is a cut and past from Selkirk website...

There is no significant weight difference in the composite cowling and the original Cessna metal cowling. The cowling and individual parts come with STC paperwork. All parts can be sold individually or as a kit. Most, but not all, individual parts will replace existing factory parts. The cowling is ready to bolt on. We supply camlocs to attach upper to lower cowling. The customer supplies hardware to attach cowling to the aircraft.


However.... This cowling has got to be lighter than the cobbled up POS that was on there to begin with...

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Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:51 am

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Brian-StevesAircraft wrote: The following is a cut and past from Selkirk website...
There is no significant weight difference in the composite cowling and the original Cessna metal cowling........

However.... This cowling has got to be lighter than the cobbled up POS that was on there to begin with...


That quote doesn't take into account the weight of all those patches, doublers, & rivets!
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:24 am

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A couple more of these installs and I might figure out if I know what I am doing...

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Since Reidar’s airplane is at a point waiting on parts, I have this 1960 Cessna to install a set of WingX extensions on... Already has the Sportsman Cuff on this one...

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Will be doing a couple other small mods at the same time.. like a cargo pod, and LED lights..

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Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:21 am

Re: 1958 Cessna 182 mods turned project...

That looks like a sportsman-contour wing extension with a standard-contour Quasar (or similar) tip.
Doesn't Quasar make a sportsman profile tip?
How did you fair the wing leading edge into the wingtip--
is that a store-bought fairing, or something you had to make up?
Can you post a closer up look?
I've considered installing a sportsman leading edge,
but I'd really like to keep my stock wingtips & I'm not sure I'd like how it'd look to fair down to them.
But that set-up actually looks pretty good.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:55 pm

1958 Cessna 182 mods turned project...

hotrod180 wrote:That looks like a sportsman-contour wing extension with a standard-contour Quasar (or similar) tip.
Doesn't Quasar make a sportsman profile tip?
How did you fair the wing leading edge into the wingtip--
is that a store-bought fairing, or something you had to make up?
Can you post a closer up look?
I've considered installing a sportsman leading edge,
but I'd really like to keep my stock wingtips & I'm not sure I'd like how it'd look to fair down to them.
But that set-up actually looks pretty good.


These tips were on the airplane when the CO bought it... They look factory and not like something that has been modified to fit the Sportsman Cuff... I’ll get more pictures when I put it back together...

I did take a quick picture of Reidar’s bird in its current state...

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As can be seen the fuselage paint it just about completely stripped off.. just a few spots here and there... Currently Rick is fitting the new cowling... the airplane had been modified before Reidar got it for 4000 series cam locks and there has to be some modifications done to the firewall attach flange for the Carbon Fiber to attach correctly... Once that is complete it will be getting some body work and then primer..

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Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:59 pm

Re: 1958 Cessna 182 mods turned project...

Brian-StevesAircraft wrote:
hotrod180 wrote:That looks like a sportsman-contour wing extension with a standard-contour Quasar (or similar) tip.
Doesn't Quasar make a sportsman profile tip?
How did you fair the wing leading edge into the wingtip--
is that a store-bought fairing, or something you had to make up?
Can you post a closer up look?
I've considered installing a sportsman leading edge,
but I'd really like to keep my stock wingtips & I'm not sure I'd like how it'd look to fair down to them.
But that set-up actually looks pretty good.


These tips were on the airplane when the CO bought it... They look factory and not like something that has been modified to fit the Sportsman Cuff... I’ll get more pictures when I put it back together...

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They are probably RMD tips. That it how the sportsman RMD ones look.

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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:35 pm

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They are RMD tips... from the tag on the power supply to the bulb...

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Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:27 pm

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Stopped in the paint mans hanger to check in on the cowling fitting... he is slowly getting there... measure 15 times, cut slowly to get it perfect...

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Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:57 am

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Brian, this is a fantastic thread. Thank you very much for taking the time to post all this.

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Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:50 pm

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A little note on the WingX extensions... I am very dissatisfied with the leading edge overlap on the sportsman cuff.. They just do not fit tightly and have nasty gaps... Here is an example on Sean’s 1960 ...

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The rest of the extension fits pretty well, it’s just this leading edge piece that looks like crap... could not stand it so decided to replace it..

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Here it is with the leading edge section drilled off...

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And here is my new piece clecoed on...

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Now riveted on... note the added screws in the nose section.. I added those to force the metal to lay flat onto the underside of the wing... This is 100 percent better, but still not perfect... I will probably do this on Reidar’s 58 also...

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Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:08 am

Re: 1958 Cessna 182 mods turned project...

Adding the Sportsman cuff to the WingX is also possible. Seeing your photos, I wonder if I wouldn’t choose to buy the WingX to match the Cessna factory profile, original or Camber Lift, and then add the Sportsman cuff to it.

Stene and WingX are trying to cooperate, but I wonder if one or the other has drifted from the correct profile. Who knows how they agreed to adhere to a certain pattern? Digital, or otherwise? I hope you bring it to their attention.

I’m more certain that I’ll buy the WingX than I am certain to buy the Sportsman (or VGs). Seeing this, I don’t regret that if I buy the Sportsman, I’ll be adding it to the WingX and have an opportunity to make the leading edge all line up nice. It will happen in phases on my project.
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Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:07 am

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Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:04 pm

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Brian, love love love this thread! Just curious about the dow sealant on the outer side of the nose ribs, seems like the older Sportsman kits did not specify this, is it a new thing or is it a custom touch?
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