And if your an Embry Riddle CFI. It's a 10 mile final, and be sure to have the wind at your back.

Assuming this was N113MS, Rental Citabria on field, I'm not sure how anyone could be upset while flying it?!

Someone should remove their rental rights... Citabria alll for me

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I have read this thread with interest since it was first posted. Most everything I would have said has already been said, but as I was thinking about it today I decided to add my comments on one thing...

Don't be in a hurry.

If you are a low-time pilot and are not sure how the time frames and distances work together between different aircraft, choose the course of action that makes you not in a hurry.

If you are a high time pilot and feel like you can make something happen if you hurry...I still vote for choose whatever option would allow you to not be in a hurry.

Hurry makes errors.

We all get faster with time and practice, and what looks like a hurry changes with experience. But at any stage, calm, deliberate actions are better than hasty actions. I avoid pilots that have a habit of behaving as if they are in a hurry. And I try to stamp it out of my personal approach to flight.

This is why I am happy to wait for somebody to fly a bomber pattern. If it helps them fly safely, it's fine with me.

I used to fly larger patterns myself.

I don't need to do that anymore, at least not in the little airplanes I am usually flying. But I still don't hurry.

Troy Hamon wrote:I have read this thread with interest since it was first posted. Most everything I would have said has already been said, but as I was thinking about it today I decided to add my comments on one thing...

Don't be in a hurry.

If you are a low-time pilot and are not sure how the time frames and distances work together between different aircraft, choose the course of action that makes you not in a hurry.

If you are a high time pilot and feel like you can make something happen if you hurry...I still vote for choose whatever option would allow you to not be in a hurry.

Hurry makes errors.

We all get faster with time and practice, and what looks like a hurry changes with experience. But at any stage, calm, deliberate actions are better than hasty actions. I avoid pilots that have a habit of behaving as if they are in a hurry. And I try to stamp it out of my personal approach to flight.

This is why I am happy to wait for somebody to fly a bomber pattern. If it helps them fly safely, it's fine with me.

I used to fly larger patterns myself.

I don't need to do that anymore, at least not in the little airplanes I am usually flying. But I still don't hurry.

I think this is great advice, and really fits for many parts of aviation. Don't hurry the planning, the walkaround, the run up, the maintenance,etc.etc. etc.

I am a fairly low time pilot (600 hours) and I remember the feeling of not wanting to look like I did not know what I was doing. Well I probably did not, and taking a bit more time usually helped. What used to feel like a small pattern now feels huge, and what seemed like way too much to process now seems totally manageable. Sometimes I can even talk or look around a bit. I think this is a game where being in a hurry an have really nasty consequences. And it is just way more fun for me to be relaxed. I actually enjoy my flying partly because it is so all absorbing - I try to concentrate 110% on what I am doing and how I could do it better, safer, more precisely - and that sense of being fully involved in a single thing is great in our fractured modern crazy world.

Good point Troy. But it is true that some folks keep doing that same hour over and over and over... again.

Heads up and be deliberate!

gunny