If budget is your thing, then the Lakeviews are a good choice. If you want bomber quality and a robust system, hands down Atlee.

The Lakevue's don't adjust for legroom - only one position but looking at em, they could easy be modified for multiple positions just like the front seats ( although I assume wouldn't be legal. I've been happy with them.

Garth

bigrenna wrote:If budget is your thing, then the Lakeviews are a good choice. If you want bomber quality and a robust system, hands down Atlee.

Since they are seldom used I think bomber quality is a total waste of money. I spent the saved money on fuel. If they were to be used often I would have stayed with the stock bench seat.

Tim

I've got a center row seats from a mid 60's 206 seats - on seat rails - per Kenmore air harbor stc. Take them in or out per mission. I've ridden in back seat of 180 -with Atlee Dodge seats - really uncomfortable .

The idea of putting a passenger into my airplane, and into a seat that I decided to save a few bucks on, doesn't fly with me. Safety is my number one thought when it comes to this flying thing and having seen both seats, I put the Atlee's in my 170. I'm not trying to come across as a prick about this, I just don't want to ever have to look back and wish I would have done something differently with regards to someone else's well being.

Would you?

akgreg wrote:The idea of putting a passenger into my airplane, and into a seat that I decided to save a few bucks on, doesn't fly with me. Safety is my number one thought when it comes to this flying thing and having seen both seats, I put the Atlee's in my 170. I'm not trying to come across as a prick about this, I just don't want to ever have to look back and wish I would have done something differently with regards to someone else's well being.

Would you?

Maybe you are. With the Atlee's the seat belt is fastened to the seat. With the Lakevue's the belts are bolted to the air frame. In a wreck would you rather be hooked to the air frame or a seat? As far as comfort goes, they both are a tie in that they suck equally. They were both designed for occasional use. Mine get used maybe three times a year. They bigger you are the more uncomfortable they are.

Tim

qmdv wrote:
Maybe you are. With the Atlee's the seat belt is fastened to the seat. With the Lakevue's the belts are bolted to the air frame.

Tim

That is WRONG. The seat belts on the Atlee Dodges seats are attached to the seat tracks where they meet with a bulkhead.

Since I posted on this thread back in 2013, I bought myself a 180 which has the BAS / LakeVue jumpseats. Those have always been my theoretical favorite over the Atlee-Dodge, and now actually having a set I haven't changed my mind. Never owned a set of Dodge's but I've been around them, and for my purposes I don't see any advantage in the way Dodge designed his vs the LakeVues.

robw56 wrote:

qmdv wrote:
Maybe you are. With the Atlee's the seat belt is fastened to the seat. With the Lakevue's the belts are bolted to the air frame.

Tim

That is WRONG. The seat belts on the Atlee Dodges seats are attached to the seat tracks where they meet with a bulkhead.

Then if the seat belts are about the same, then why is one less safe when all the seat does is do a crappy job of keeping your butt off the floor.

Tim

The Atlees I had in the last 180 the belts were bolted to the seat frame. Must be legal because it was a 135 aircraft.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.

Must not have been legal but passed conformity check anyway?

The Atlee does have that awesome rail system that the seats fasten to. I do acknowledge that is a big plus. As I said, my first plane had Atlee's and my current plane has Lakevue's. They are both excellent. I I ever do another plane I will probably go with the Lakevue's again.

Tim

bigrenna wrote:I had posted this on another thread, but since it is appropriate here... My FA Dodges

Are the Atlee seats adjustable longiotudinally? Looks like the center rails would allow for it, but I can't tell about the sides.

I have the split seats from the factory, which I like because they are light, easy to remove, store and install again. My only complaint with them is that the rear seat passengers have very little leg room. This is probably because the third row seating was considered in the layout.

I will upgrade to Dodge seats only if it offers more leg room for my passengers.

Scolopax wrote:Are the Atlee seats adjustable longiotudinally? Looks like the center rails would allow for it, but I can't tell about the sides.

....and that is the question. Why have the seat rails if you can't adjust the seat? For example, look at the FA Dodge install drawing a few posts back...the side rail and floor rail are at angles to each other. It looks as though it would be physically impossible to slide the seat backward/forward.

Chris

The installation instructions show the location of where the forward leg attaches to the rail and where the seat belt attaches as well. I have moved my seats back slightly but don't recall the exact amount that they can be moved. Quite possibly it isn't legal to adjust them. ?? I will call Atlee and see. There didn't seem to be an issue with legroom with the seats in the positions called out in the specs. I'm 6'4" and have rode in the back. No complaints.

I'm planing to install a folding jump seat in my 170 later this summer. I only want one. A single seat from Lakeview is only $50 less than a single FA Dodge. I don't see myself ever putting 2 full size persons in the back of my 170. The Lakeview seems to fit my need better by being able to still use the Cessna bench seat. I have a 1 year old boy and looks like there will be lots of short flight with small children in my future. I plan to put the bench seat back in for those. Weight won't be an issue for those flights.

Any thoughts on installing only one seat? Only $800 more for the second Lakeview. Any reasons I should buy two? Those who have done the install did you order a seatbelt kit from the seat maker?

The Atlee dodge seats can be moved back and forward. The rails are great for tying loads down and the side rails store quarts of oil perfectly. I bought a used pair and purchased an STC for around $100. I have only used both once in two years, so I think one would be a an intelligent option. Without a doubt the best mod I have made to my 170.

and that is the question. Why have the seat rails if you can't adjust the seat?

Strengthens the floor, you're not using the same mounting points as the stock seat mounts, and yes you can drill other holes to adjust the seat position with the Lakeviews.

I just bought the lakeviews for my 1961 182. The install was a breeze and I've done everything but the seatbelts. The original rear seatbelts in my plane bolted to the seat frame itself. The lakeview stc suggests a part number for a seat belt attach anchor from a later 182, best price I've found is $750 each.... Does anybody here have pictured of their seatbelt anchor on a pre 62, or know of an alternate mount that I'm not aware of?

Regards,

Jim