I am looking for a spin on oil filter installation that works in a Cessna 180H (Standard O-470R installation) with a seaplane engine mount. All that I have seen interfere with the vertical tube that connects the upper and lower engine mount clusters. Does anybody know of a compatible installation?

Bump.

Does anyone have experience with the Airwolf remote oil filter in the Cessna 180?

Who has opinions about oil filter installations? Are they worth the weight and money? My guess is yes, but I can't say for certain.

Have you checked if the F&M (short) adapter would work? That's what I have. It's a bit of a PITA to reach the filter, but I liked the idea of no extra hoses for the oil to go through.

Oregon180 wrote:Have you checked if the F&M (short) adapter would work? That's what I have. It's a bit of a PITA to reach the filter, but I liked the idea of no extra hoses for the oil to go through.

I too like the idea of no extra hoses. I bought a new unit a couple of years ago, but there is interference with the vertical engine mount tube. That's why I'm looking at remote. Do you change the oil every 50 vs 25 hours because of oil filter installation?

I have a intregral oil filter oil pump off of a O 470 U. It works good and I bet it'd fit. I also have a Capehart lifetime oil filter that you take apart and clean. It might be all hipe but has a very fine stainless screen and internal magnets. I have used this combination since 1995. I had to change some of the studs that hold the pump since it is deeper than the original.

Scolopax wrote:I am looking for a spin on oil filter installation that works in a Cessna 180H (Standard O-470R installation) with a seaplane engine mount. All that I have seen interfere with the vertical tube that connects the upper and lower engine mount clusters. Does anybody know of a compatible installation?

I have one on my 180, I have to remove the starter at each oil filter change, it's not too bad, it. Only takes me an extra 10 minutes. Two nuts on the starter, and one on the solenoid.

I have an oil filter... moved it recently to the mount itself to accommodate thee light weight/forward battery installation. It works with the seaplane mount just fine. Now the dual exhaust may be another story;)

gunny

moved it recently to the mount itself

Other than having hoses, I like that since it definitely won't get oil all over everything when you take the filter off.

Gunny wrote:I have an oil filter... moved it recently to the mount itself to accommodate thee light weight/forward battery installation. It works with the seaplane mount just fine. Now the dual exhaust may be another story;)

gunny

That's a good looking installation. It is Airwolf?

I beleive so. I fabricated the bracket and the hoses.... hoses are not a big deal if you do it right. I've given up on having third parties do it for me... never works out well.

gunny

Scolopax wrote:Bump.

Does anyone have experience with the Airwolf remote oil filter in the Cessna 180?

Who has opinions about oil filter installations? Are they worth the weight and money? My guess is yes, but I can't say for certain.

Yes. Airwolf.
Yes. Worth the money for certain (if screens were as good they wouldn't have been obsolete a generation ago)
No real weight increase. Take a dump before you fly or skip dessert.

None of the FM's work without pulling starter with seaplane mount. I'm surprised that is even considered. Plus the FM's are a hokey deal anyway.



Best option is the 520/470U oil pump housing with the filter base. HOWEVER my air wolf is 10x's cleaner at oil changes. No mess.
Can even change thru cowl flap while during flying season. Plan your install accordingly.

Scolopax,

What did you end up doing? Airwolf? Its time for my first oil change in a new to me 180H with what I believe is a seaplane (0751003-27?) mount. I opened the cowl expecting to find a filter but I guess it never got the conversion. I was hoping one of the tempest mounts would work...

I don't have a seaplane mount, but installing a Challenger filter in my C180 meant that I no longer have to pull the upper cowl and remove the starter in order to change the filter:

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/ep ... fetime.php

If I didn't have anything, the remote mount would be much cleaner, however the F&M does work with a seaplane mount and you do not have to pull the starter to get the filter on and off. Oil mess, that's a different story. I've cut some old plastic cottage cheese containers to make a cup that fits and will catch the oil as I unscrew the filter. It gets most of it, but there's always some mess once I start working the filter out between the mount. I also have to turn on the cabin heat to get the needed clearance on that control arm. Definitely takes more finesse than the non-seaplane mount, but it can be done.

The biggest thing with F&M is to be aware of their bulletin (can't remember if it's an AD or not), but if the mount itself ever has to be re-torqued, the two gaskets have to be replaced (1 copper crush washer, 1 cork like gasket). There have been engine failures due to loss of oil pressure and in all cases that I'm aware of it was found the owner reused the gaskets and the adapter came loose in flight.

All that said, if my plane hadn't come with the F&M, I'd look at a remote mount. In the end it will be an easier and cleaner setup than an F&M adapter.

Does anyone have pictures of an Airwolf remote filter installation on a 185?

I have a seaplane engine mount and my battery is located in the baggage compartment. Ideally I'd like to keep the filter on the copilots side and reachable from the cowl flap so I don't need to pull the cowl to change the oil. I think there is enough room in that location, but am open to better ideas.

"Never be so sure of something you want that you wouldn't take something better."

fredy wrote:.....The biggest thing with F&M is to be aware of their bulletin (can't remember if it's an AD or not), but if the mount itself ever has to be re-torqued, the two gaskets have to be replaced (1 copper crush washer, 1 cork like gasket). There have been engine failures due to loss of oil pressure and in all cases that I'm aware of it was found the owner reused the gaskets and the adapter came loose in flight.
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Scuttlebutt is that there may be an AD coming out on this.

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all ... e-failures

Hotrod is correct. An AD is right around the corner...

FWIW, I have a seaplane MT on my bird and have a stock filter assy. Its a pain, and many just remove the starter, but if you do it just right, I can easily slide the filter down and take get it out from below. Spills some oil, but I dont have to take off the starter.

Greg-

Form-a-funnel is pretty indispensable when changing oil on airplanes. I have a seaplane mount and can completely avoid a mess with one of these.


I’m running out of room on my firewall for more stuff. Not sure where I’m going to put a remote filter setup...

Halestorm wrote: I’m running out of room on my firewall for more stuff. Not sure where I’m going to put a remote filter setup...

Did you see Gunny's photo about 10 posts back?
Never seen one mounted like that before but it seems like an effective solution.
Might be an issue if the STC specifies firewall mounting, but that shouldn't be an unsurmountable problem.