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Engine losing power at full throttle...video inside. FIXED!

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Re: Engine losing power at full throttle...FIXED!

Newbizor wrote:So I flew it today and it ran great, made full power and loved it. I climbed up to about 4,000ft (800ft field elevation) and the engine didn't miss a beat! I cant explain how happy I am, what a huge relief. I can't thank you all enough, actually last night I made my donation to the site.

I flew for about 45 mins and landed to do a quick oil level check/general visual inspection under the cowl (maybe 5 mins) before starting it back up and taxiing to take it back up, I noticed it took a few blades to start which was a little unusual but brushed it off to being fully warm. I got to the end of the runway and did another runup and when I selected my right mag I got NO rpm drop, selected the left mag and DEAD. Shit.... I taxied back to the ramp and started to investigate. Right away I stuck my head under the panel to inspect the wiring to the switch ( I just replaced all the wiring in this whole plane, the switch is only a few years old) and it was all intact, terminals tight and no rubbing on anything. Next I popped the panel on the cowl and looked at the mags/harnesses (still there) and the p-leads back to the firewall. All appeared well, I noticed the right mag P-lead was movable by hand when I rotated it so I tightened the nut back down (not that that had anything to do with it I know). I started it back up and this time I got a drop when selecting the right mag, but when I selected the left mag I got a very big drop, rough running and backfiring (LOUD!) out of the exhaust. I shut back down and went inside the FBO and drank a soda while I mentally planned my attack. About 20 mins later for shits and giggles I thought I would just try it again, started the engine (started right up) good mag drop on both mags.... whatever, I blasted off and flew back home (just a short 10 min hop) and when I landed before I shut down I did another mag check and the Left mag was dead again....

Why would the mag work cool but die once its warmed up? Bad Coil? I guess I'll be pulling the mag (might as well do both) anyway......


cliff wrote:Your engine didn't happen to be bought from a guy in PA on Barnstormers? If so I know a little bit about the engine. I am just wondering because the years of non use and low hours sound the same.


Nope, this plane has lived its whole life between Minnesota and Wisconsin as far as the logbooks/records show.

lesuther wrote:Wow...thanks for the update. I've never run into a spring issue before. It's an education for me for sure.

Thanks!


Yeah some local mechanics told me I should at least have the springs checked, since the engine had sat for 20 years without moving. It was kind of a long shot in my mind but I'm thrilled it ended up being the culprit.

hotrod180 wrote:IMHO this is where a good engine monitor / multi-point EGT / CHT gauge would really earns it's keep, isolating problems to a certain cylinder(s) for diagnosis purposes.


I know, I'd love a CGR-30P but the thing is damn expensive.....I've been on the fence now on it for some time. I've installed JPI monitors in friends planes and they are awesome tools. I think that might be my next purchase for this plane, hopefully they will have a deal at the EAA booth or something (just dreaming).


When you do spring for a monitor, also consider an Insight. I've been very happy with my Insight G-1, and Insight's service policies are outstanding.

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Re: Engine losing power at full throttle...FIXED!

Newbizor wrote:I know, I'd love a CGR-30P but the thing is damn expensive.....I've been on the fence now on it for some time. I've installed JPI monitors in friends planes and they are awesome tools. I think that might be my next purchase for this plane, hopefully they will have a deal at the EAA booth or something (just dreaming).


EI is running a rebate through July 31. $300 on a CGR-30P and $200 on a UBG-16. I'm buying a UBG-16. Aircraft Spruce has the UBG for $1888 for my 6 cylinder, cheaper than from EI, and that's where I found the rebate form as well.
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Newbizor wrote: I can't thank you all enough, actually last night I made my donation to the site.


That's great, glad you got it resolved and are happy enough to donate. I appreciate it. I did not, however receive any donations last night or today. Just wanted to let you know in case you thought you had, or maybe you sent it to the wrong website. 8)
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Re: Engine losing power at full throttle...video inside. FIX

Cary wrote:When you do spring for a monitor, also consider an Insight. I've been very happy with my Insight G-1, and Insight's service policies are outstanding.

Cary


I don't see anywhere that says its a certified replacement for primary RPM/Oil PSI, I would do one of these or a EDM if they were primary replacements. I really like how the CGR-30p fits right into the 3 1/8" hole nicely.

Either way my engine monitor budget might be blown on mags. I sent mine in today to a shop that said they would take a look at it and bench check it with heat on it. Its an old Slick 667 and the guy from the shop said don't get my hopes up that I'll be able to get it repaired as there are no parts available for these things I guess......That means I'll probably be in this thing another 2-3K for replacement mags/harnesses. Keeping my fingers crossed... The most unfortunate part is the weather is supposed to be awesome this weekend, now that the plane is finally running like a champ I cant fly it because the mag issue, sucks..

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Newbizor wrote: I can't thank you all enough, actually last night I made my donation to the site.

I did not, however receive any donations last night or today. Just wanted to let you know in case you thought you had, or maybe you sent it to the wrong website. 8)

My PP account shows the donation as completed to "backountry pilot, LLC", I used the link at the bottom of the home page...I don't know what to tell you! I'll check up with you in a few days to see if it came through.
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Newbizor wrote:My PP account shows the donation as completed to "backountry pilot, LLC", I used the link at the bottom of the home page...I don't know what to tell you! I'll check up with you in a few days to see if it came through.


Yes, apologies, I checked PP and did receive it. Thank you!

I normally get email notifications for that stuff, but nothing in the last 24 hours. Paypal must have had a hiccup.

I personally thank each and every person who has donated by replying to those emails, so if you never heard from me, this is perhaps the reason. Apologies.
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Re: Engine losing power at full throttle...video inside. FIX

Just a thought on a year-old thread: I prefer to troubleshoot engines using an optical tachometer. Aircraft tach's are frequently inaccurate.
I'd use an optical tach to verify both the aircraft tach reading and to confirm the rpm fluctuation. Sometimes faults in aircraft tachometers
themselves will send you in the wrong direction while T/S.
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