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Re: How's your weather?

A story of serious cold:

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/events/life-80.htm

One of the most notable traits of the day, remembered by both Toole and Blezard, was the enhanced audibility and crystal clarity of sounds due to the denser air and absence of wind. In addition, the strong surface temperature inversion bent the sound waves back toward the surface, thus causing sounds to hug the ground.

The freezing of one's breath produced a continuous hissing sound similar to dry blowing snow, and a tinkle when the ice crystals hit the ground. Thin ice when broken sounded exactly like breaking glass. The contraction of ice covering the nearby river was also very apparent. "Ice in the White River about a mile east of the airport, cracked and boomed loudly, like gunfire," reported Toole.

"At 80 below, the talking of the Indians and the barking of dogs in the village could be plainly heard at the airport four miles away," recalled Blezard. "An aircraft that flew over Snag that day at 10,000 feet [3050 m] was first heard when it was over 20 miles [32 km] away. Later, when overhead, still at 10,000 feet, the engine roar was deafening. It woke everyone who was sleeping at the time, because they thought the airplane was landing at the airport."
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Re: How's your weather?

-40 this morning here in Nisswa, MN... :? But the freeway is still full of trucks and cars, the office is warm, the water is running and it's just another day in paradise. 8)
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BRD wrote:-40 this morning here in Nisswa, MN... :? But the freeway is still full of trucks and cars, the office is warm, the water is running and it's just another day in paradise. 8)

That's over -5,000' density altitude. I think my lowest takeoff was something like -6,000' DA in Fairbanks.
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Was out snowshoeing a few days ago, uphill, breathing hard, feeling mortal. Recalled the premise of the movie "Wind River" with Jeremy Renner, where breathing hard in super cold would cause you lungs to burst and you'd die. Any of you real cold weather guys care to comment on whether it is true and what precautions to take?

Never gets that cold in the PNW. I did visit Fargo (for Appareo) once in the winter, that was enough.
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Karmutzen wrote:Was out snowshoeing a few days ago, uphill, breathing hard, feeling mortal. Recalled the premise of the movie "Wind River" with Jeremy Renner, where breathing hard in super cold would cause you lungs to burst and you'd die. Any of you real cold weather guys care to comment on whether it is true and what precautions to take?

Never gets that cold in the PNW. I did visit Fargo (for Appareo) once in the winter, that was enough.


I'm not a real cold weather guy, but I call bullpoop on the whole concept. In all the years I spent in the Himalayas I never heard anything of the sort.

Of course if it was in a movie it's probably true... :wink:
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Re: How's your weather?

Deep cold can freeze skin and internal tissues associated with breathing. How cold? I've breathed -63F while sitting in an open outhouse and survived. Stuff freezes before it hits dirt at that temp. I'd not overdue heavy breathing unless your nose and mouth are covered in real cold.

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Balmy here in Platinum Alaska at 25 degrees...tee shirt, jeans, thin socks and a thin jacket today. Did use my seal skin hat!


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It's a balmy -14 here this morning. Definitely on the snappy side, but not out of the ordinary for this time of year. Cold enough though so the porta-potties at our raft base are snuggling. On the whole cold enough to damage your lungs thing, I'm not sure if it's accurate or not, but when I was coaching alpine racing we had a minimum race temp. but I think that was for frost bite. I had one daughter that raced nordic and they had a minimum race temp of around -10 I believe due to worries about lung damage.

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OregonMaule wrote:.... Back to the crap Oregon weather. ho hum. ...


Dunno about Portland, but we just finished with several fine weather days in the Puget Sound area.
Raining today in Seattle but not here on the edge of the Olympic rain shadow.
Only got down to 40 or so last night, 46 now-- not bad at all.
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[quote="BRD"]-40 this morning here in Nisswa, MN... :? But the freeway is still full of trucks and cars, the office is warm, the water is running and it's just another day in paradise. 8)[/quote

Yep, and I was just dumb enough to get outside to get some snow shoveled out of my utility trailer. We get 8-12" a few days ago and I needed to use it. After getting the snow out I was backing the trailer up and the tongue snapped like glass! 2" box tubing and I guess it was frozen and brittle.
Should have known better than to be out in that cold working on stuff!!!
Spent this morning getting the rest of the tongue off and welding it back together. Ask me why the heck I stay in this frozen place?
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BRD wrote:-40 this morning here in Nisswa, MN... :? But the freeway is still full of trucks and cars, the office is warm, the water is running and it's just another day in paradise. 8)


Yep, and I was just dumb enough to get outside to get some snow shoveled out of my utility trailer. We get 8-12" a few days ago and I needed to use it. After getting the snow out I was backing the trailer up and the tongue snapped like glass! 2" box tubing and I guess it was frozen and brittle.
Should have known better than to be out in that cold working on stuff!!!
Spent this morning getting the rest of the tongue off and welding it back together. Ask me why the heck I stay in this frozen place?
Ya we broke lots of metal in -40. Dozer arms and C frames on dozers.
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PHNL 2019.02.01@15:30 HST, elevation 11’MSL

Wind 070°@15KT Gust 21KT
Ceiling Unlimited Temp 81°F (ISA+21)
Visibility 10SM Dewpoint 64°F
Altimeter 29.88IN Density Alt 1726FT
WX --Clouds
2,500FT Few
3,200FT Few
4,500FT Scattered

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Re: How's your weather?

The Cotton MN official NWS weather station is two miles east of my house, yesterday it recorded the official low for the lower 48 at -56F. No open air flying.
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marcusofcotton wrote:The Cotton MN official NWS weather station is two miles east of my house, yesterday it recorded the official low for the lower 48 at -56F. No open air flying.


Makes me wonder how feed lots in the region manage to keep water flowing for the livestock...
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marcusofcotton wrote:The Cotton MN official NWS weather station is two miles east of my house, yesterday it recorded the official low for the lower 48 at -56F. No open air flying.


Makes me wonder how feed lots in the region manage to keep water flowing for the livestock...


Or how the livestock doesn't keel over dead like an exhausted taun-taun on Hoth?
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Came back from holidays to 8 inches of snow and this... ugh. Image
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Dang, David, that is COLD!

I hope you were on vacation somewhere warm. Like Vancouver;-)
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albravo wrote:Dang, David, that is COLD!

I hope you were on vacation somewhere warm. Like Vancouver;-)
It was warmer. We were in Fairmont skiing for a week. Now I have to fight to get my plow truck running tomorrow so I can get some snow cleaned up...
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I am about ready to load my 12ga up with rock salt and shoot some clouds...
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Re: How's your weather?

We recently had one of the most bad ass storm systems in my 40+ years of living on this mountain range, lots of snow and LOTS of wind, for 3 or 4 days When it was all over (my local ski area was shut down for a day, that's bad....) my driveway and access to my hangar was drifted over 5' deep. AND, it was rock hard compacted snow. My 30+ hp Kubota tractor's front end loader could only break it loose in small bites, forget plowing it or blowing it, I had to dice and slice it and then haul it off a bucket at a time, to someplace I didn't really want to pile it but had no other choice. It was like dealing with clay, very heavy also. I am re arranging the hangar, getting the "stored for the winter on it's trailer, backwards" mini excavator freed up, to get it front and center and ready to roll if we get another like this last one. Then I'll tag team it, using the mini to break it up so the tractor can haul it or maybe blow it, where I don't know, it's getting to be an epic winter here. Great snowboarding and ski plane flying, not so good for road clearing and otherwise having to deal with the stuff, it's been a " White Hell" here, fun though and why I live here I guess. =D>
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