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It's not good when they have your number...

In this case your serial number.

Does anyone know why a block of serial numbers would be singled out in a TCDS like this:

"NOTE 7: The following serial numbered aircraft are not eligible for import certification to the U.S.: PA-32-300: 32-40491, 32-40503, 32-40518, 32-40532, 32-40533, 32-40544, 32-40545, 32-40965, 32-40966, 32-40968 through 32-40974, 32-7240120, 32-7240123, 32-7240126, 32-7240129, 32-7240132, 32-7340133, 32-7340155, 32-7340159, 32-7340160, 32-7340172, 32-7440144, 32-7540114, 32-7540136, 32-7640127, 32-7740100, 32-7840028, 32-7940141, and 32-7940240."

Politics? I googled a few numbers and get foreign registrations: Chile, Bolivia, France, Mexico... I can't figure out a pattern.

Maybe its common, but I've never bumped across it before.

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Any chance they where built "under license" in thereby not compliant with the original manufacturing type certificate.
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No, those that I googled are all Vero Beach graduates. I deleted one c/n from the list. That one is in the US with an active foreign registry and is being offered for sale. Might have something with the fact it was originally exported to Chile when Allende was el Presidente...
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Just a guess but they may never have had a US airworthiness certificate. Most aircraft which were exported were issued a US certificate, then sold when new and the US certificate cancelled at time of import to a foreign country and thus when imported back into the US are reissued a US certificate. Or I could probably be wrong.

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NLP? I used to fly into Pellston. One can't get much more NLP than that.

Maybe there are multiple ways to do it. Supporting your idea is that I never saw a US registration on any of the c/ns looked up, but each had a connection to Chile.

When I was younger I ferried some new a/c to the Caribbean and SA. Each of them was registered in the US. My understanding was that you couldn't get a ferry permit for a new a/c without a registration. At least that's what the man paying me said, I didn't need to know more. The factory reused numbers too-- or maybe it was the FAA's call. After c/n 101 was delivered and registered on the HK list, c/n 117 might get the same N number.
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I'm about 20 miles southeast of Cadillac, 60 miles southeast of Traverse City, 150 miles south of Pellston. Pretty country up there at the tip of the lower peninsula.

When I made my post about registrations I was thinking that they were possibly sold to the final customer during production and came off the line with a foreign registration and airworthiness certificate.

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bat443 wrote:I'm about 20 miles southeast of Cadillac, 60 miles southeast of Traverse City, 150 miles south of Pellston. Pretty country up there at the tip of the lower peninsula.

When I made my post about registrations I was thinking that they were possibly sold to the final customer during production and came off the line with a foreign registration and airworthiness certificate.

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It is beautiful, I was doing charters taking folks up to vacation spots there.

CC- registrations and Chilean certificates, could be...
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bat443 wrote:They were possibly sold to the final customer during production and came off the line with a foreign registration and airworthiness certificate.

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Confirmed by the FAA. No US airworthiness certificate was ever issued. Explains the asking price.
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