Not much can be done about it, but I know you guys will understand my disappointment. We're about a month into the summer flying season in the midwest and a few days from the start of summer by the solar cycle and I've just lost my medical for at least 90 days due to kidney stones. There goes three fly-ins, a camping trip and tons of other fun I had planned. I'm bummed.

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Damn. Sorry to hear that rw. Everything happens for a reason.

That being said, I think that you should buy an upgrade for your airplane with the money your going to "save" by not flying. You can tell your wife Evan said it was ok to spend the money.

She has no idea who I am so that makes it ok.

Sorry to hear that RW. That stinks.

At least it is a transient condition that will pass (pun intended), but it doesn't make it any easier to have to sit out the summer.

Sorry to hear that. However, all may not be lost. Find a young CFI desperate for time that can qualify under your insurance and tell him he can ride along to "give instruction". He gets to log a few hours and you get to fly and make some of the flyins. Win/win.

That sucks man!

Hopefully it works itself out soon and you can get back up quickly!

Grassstrippilot wrote:Sorry to hear that. However, all may not be lost. Find a young CFI desperate for time that can qualify under your insurance and tell him he can ride along to "give instruction". He gets to log a few hours and you get to fly and make some of the flyins. Win/win.

Finding someone who is Maule qualified to the satisfaction of my insurance company may well be impossible. However, I am strongly considering taking some aerobatic lessons in a Pitts. And the same outfit has a Stearman. Both are unavailable for solo, but that hardly seems the liability that it did 72 hours ago.

90 days seems like a long time for kidney stones. Why so long?

Sorry to hear you're sidelined for a while. Hope you feel better soon and are able to hit the skies sooner than later!

Does this mean we'll see a sudden increase in the number of BCP posts for a while?

CW

Crummy timing for sure. How did it work out that you got grounded for 90 days? I should probably know this but are you supposed to report stuff like this to your AME right after it happens? My dad got kidney stones a few years back but he didn't report it till he was due for his next flight physical, probably a year later. He had to go see a urologist and send the paperwork in but got his medical back a month later.

My AME says that self grounding is a requirement. You don't have to report it immediately per se, but you can't fly until you report and get the green light. There are some situations in which 90 days isn't necessary (e.g. you've passed the stone, had it analyzed, consulted with a doctor and made the necessary changes (diet and/or drugs) to prevent recurrence), but it's extremely unlikely that mine will be one of them. The 90 days comes from having to show stability in retained stones, which I will almost certainly have.

if you have never had a stone the pain can be incapacitating, and that is what the FAA is worried about...agree or disagree, they don't want a pilot flying and have a sudden onset of incapacitating pain.

And very sorry to hear about this, I hope you get back in the air ASAP.

Been there, done that, and it is very definitely incapacitating--I could hardly walk, let alone drive myself to the hospital. Never felt such pain in my life.

I had a client who was flying his Staggerwing Beech across Nevada when kidney stones struck. He barreled right through a restricted area to get on the ground as fast as possible--his one issue was that he failed to call ATC and declare an emergency--just bee-lined. When the FAA called, we were able to negotiate a civil penalty of $200, fortunately because the Inspector involved had had kidney stones himself.

Cary

rw2 wrote:My AME says that self grounding is a requirement. You don't have to report it immediately per se, but you can't fly until you report and get the green light. There are some situations in which 90 days isn't necessary (e.g. you've passed the stone, had it analyzed, consulted with a doctor and made the necessary changes (diet and/or drugs) to prevent recurrence), but it's extremely unlikely that mine will be one of them. The 90 days comes from having to show stability in retained stones, which I will almost certainly have.

Thanks for the explanation and being willing to share a little of your personal diagnosis. It makes more sense now. A lot of times they can get in there and zap those things pretty quick, in and out! But that's not always the case and apparently those things can linger for a while .

"Take two of these and call me in the morning" . Oh, and "drink lots of water"

Hope it's not long.

CW

Sorry to hear yer grounding, it soon shall pass if it has not already. I had one about 8-9 years ago pissed it out didn't fly until I felt right again and pee turned from brown to yellow. Hurts like hell then feels like you gotta pee even after you pee. Except for the pain it's not a big deal until you involve the Feds. Cut back on the calcium, take 2 aspirin and call your Dr. in the morning if you can self ground yourself you should be able to unselfish ground you. I think I was back to abnormal in about 2-3 weeks Ignorance is bliss

Ay, Chihuahua - I don't know which hurts more, not being able to fly in the peak season for aviators, or trying to pass a kidney stone. I don't understand why we have so many nerves in that area. I fully understand the purpose of nerves that remind us to pull our hands away from fire, but what helpful reaction is the pain from kidney stones supposed to trigger? It just seems like a development that has no evolutionary benefit. Oh well, I have lots of those...

To help fill the void in your life this summer, should we all post more pictures and videos of our aviation porn for you, or will that just make the withdrawal worse?

Flyhound wrote: I don't understand why we have so many nerves in that area. I fully understand the purpose of nerves that remind us to pull our hands away from fire, but what helpful reaction is the pain from kidney stones supposed to trigger? It just seems like a development that has no evolutionary benefit.

I've been wondering the same thing the past few days...

I guess related to this *and* the self grounding question is the fact that hydrocodone is prohibited for good reason!

When I had extreme pain in that area, the emergency room doc gave me morphine. MP rapidly dropped below 40. After they reversed the morphine, I woke up with no more problem. Never had that problem before.

Flyhound wrote:Ay, Chihuahua - I don't know which hurts more, not being able to fly in the peak season for aviators, or trying to pass a kidney stone. I don't understand why we have so many nerves in that area. I fully understand the purpose of nerves that remind us to pull our hands away from fire, but what helpful reaction is the pain from kidney stones supposed to trigger? It just seems like a development that has no evolutionary benefit. Oh well, I have lots of those...

Three engineers were arguing in a bar. The first says "God must be a mechanical engineer, just look at all the joint, muscles, and ligaments in the human body."

The second says "God must be an electrical engineer, with the nervous system and brain"

The third says "Nah, God is a civil engineer. Who else would put a waste disposal pipeline through a playground?"




Sorry, never had a kidney stone. Drink lotsa cranberry juice. The acid helps break them up.

Flyhound wrote:Ay, Chihuahua - I don't know which hurts more, not being able to fly in the peak season for aviators, or trying to pass a kidney stone. I don't understand why we have so many nerves in that area. I fully understand the purpose of nerves that remind us to pull our hands away from fire, but what helpful reaction is the pain from kidney stones supposed to trigger? It just seems like a development that has no evolutionary benefit. Oh well, I have lots of those...

To help fill the void in your life this summer, should we all post more pictures and videos of our aviation porn for you, or will that just make the withdrawal worse?

blockage of the ureter can cause backup of urine in the kidney called hydronephrosis...uncorrected could lead to the loss of function of the kidney....a good reason for the body to let you know the outflow is obstructed

If you wanna fix it yerself, hydrangea root dissolves stones and cleans out the kidneys, even known to restart them after they quit. Dr Schultz makes a product based on the root with a bunch of other things to help it out, that works very good. https://www.herbdoc.com/index.php?optio ... 25&osCsid=

I've used a few of his concoctions and they are powerful and fast acting. But mostly we make our own from herbs we collect and get from an herb supplier. I used our own preperation of hydrangea root a few years ago and it really made me feel better and from the evidence I could tell my kidneys were working much better.