PapernScissors wrote:Hammer wrote:Pelican cases vent under pressure, so they won't contain pepper spray. A Watershed dry bag will probably contain it, providing there's enough empty volume in the bag. A large canning jar or welding rod case should also work. I just tie my bear spray to the steps with a couple Titan Straps. A bit of silicone tape on the steps makes the can "stick" to it better.
This is a very interesting and intelligent article on the pro's and con's of pepper spray in regards to bears:
https://craigmedred.news/2017/06/29/bea ... yes-or-no/One of the more interesting parts in the article to me was how bad we are at appraising risk. The chance of a bear attack, even in heavy bear country, is so fantastically small that to worry about it at all is basically wasted energy that should be spent addressing more realistic dangers. But we're evolutionarily hard wired to be inordinately afraid of teeth and claws, so we cary a four-pound handgun strapped to us while getting in and out of a float plane...vastly increasing the very substantial risk of drowning to mitigate the exceptionally small risk of animal attack.
Historically I've needed wasp spray a hundred times more than I've needed bear spray or a gun, but I don't cary it. Not sure why...
My take after reading the article is that the risk model is flawed... For example, while 2.1 million persons might visit Yellowstone, only a tiny proportion enter territory where a bear encounter is even remotely likely. Yes, the odds of a bear encounter are low... but not nearly as low as Medred suggests
Spend much time in Yellowstone? Brown bears don't always avoid roads. In fact, just last week or so, a dipshit woman was video-d taking pictures of a brown bear which was bluff charging her....while in the midst of humanity....as we know it.
I totally agree with Hammer on the utility of a gun for survival purposes, at least survival outside the big city. I've spent hundreds of days wandering around bear country, mostly carrying a firearm, but not because I wanted to....it was agency policy. A LOT of bear attacks, particularly the really bad ones, happen so fast that the person has no time to react with a weapon OR bear spray.
Those big rascals are quick....believe me, I've been bluff charged a couple times. Makes the hair stand up on my neck just thinking about it now, but.....If I'd had a gun in those cases, there'd been a dead bear for no reason. And, I HATE skinning bears, and yes I've done that as well.
Back to the notion of carrying weapons loaded or not in a plane: I carried passengers with firearms regularly. They were required to carry a firearm in the field. I was required to "Be armed".....my handgun was loaded with one in the breech at all times, and with a topped off magazine. My passengers, unless they were also LEOs, were NEVER permitted to carry loaded firearms in my airplanes. And, yes, I checked every one. And, I can't tell you the number of times that I took someone's 870 shotgun out of its case, carefully opened the action, and found a live round in the chamber. That also will raise the hair on the back of your neck. This kid had been driving round town with a loaded shotgun with a Brenneke slug in the chamber...and as often as not, the safety off.
Fortunately, our field crews weren't permitted to carry handguns for defense, so it was pretty easy to spot the long guns and check them. If they also smuggled a handgun in there, I would never have known.
So, would I carry a loaded handgun in an airplane? Yes, and I have, including on airliners...when I was authorized. In those circumstances, loaded is required. Do I do so regularly today.....nope.
Would I carry a loaded long gun in a plane? No, and I can't imagine why it would be necessary....unless you're landing in Tel Aviv.
And, to me, guns are NOT survival gear. And, yes, I've actually been in a "survival" situation in the boon docks. I try NOT to spend any time in the big city if I can avoid it.
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And you want one round per hole. (Except for the center hole if it's a removable cylinder. I'm old, so I just pull the wedge out of my octagon barrel Colt and slip in another six rounds at once.)
