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Oshkosh and more?

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Re: Oshkosh and more?

My own experience is that I've landed on 18 left (the taxiway is re-numbered), 18 right, 36 left, 36 right, but all of the rest have been on 27. I've yet to land on 9. All of them require tight, tight, tight patterns!!!!! How tight is tight? On your airplane, if you're doing a left hand pattern, the runway should bisect your wing struts. Using no more than a 30 degree bank, you won't be able to level out on base, just barely lifting your wing, assuming that you're already at your final approach speed by the time you turn base.

If you're doing the right hand pattern to 27, you'll barely be able to see the runway at the bottom of your right side window.

The biggest problem I've observed at OSH is that people forget to fly the way they were trained to fly. "A game", yes, but that's how you were trained. Watch your airspeed, not too fast, not too slow. With my airplane (which flies a whole lot like yours), I slow to 70 mph and lower 20 flaps as soon as tower says "red and white Cessna, start your descent." That will be sooner than you're accustomed to slowing, as most of us start slowing and descending abeam the numbers. At OSH, it's more like mid-downwind, but usually tower will call it. DO NOT ANSWER--just do it. If you immediately throttle back and drop 20 flaps, you'll be at 70 mph from 100 mph (90 knots) pretty quickly. I don't usually go to full 40 flaps until I'm lined up to land. In fact, you may actually have to add throttle--do whatever is necessary so that you can land pretty close to your assigned dot.

Then as soon after landing as is safe to do, exit the runway onto the grass unless tower tells you to do otherwise. Once in a blue moon tower wants you to taxi to the next hard surfaced taxiway, but most of the time, it's into the grass. Then watch for the volunteers, and put your sign up right away (VAC or GAC) and don't forget to show it to each volunteer as you taxi toward them.

One last comment, at the risk of being repetitive: the hardest part about flying into OSH is the anticipation, not the actual doing. If you're like most first timers, while you're tying your airplane down, you'll be saying to yourself, "piece of cake--that wasn't hard at all."

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Re: Oshkosh and more?

Cary,

Thanks for another awesome response!!!

I'm leaving this afternoon, and made quick video of some of the gear I'm packing. Might help others, and if there is anything I didn't think of please let me know... See you all at OSH!!!!


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Airplaneflyer wrote:Cary,

Thanks for another awesome response!!!

I'm leaving this afternoon, and made quick video of some of the gear I'm packing. Might help others, and if there is anything I didn't think of please let me know... See you all at OSH!!!!




With your airplane, you'll want to land 36 for the shortest taxi to Vintage, unless the wind is big.

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mtv wrote:
Airplaneflyer wrote:Cary,

Thanks for another awesome response!!!

I'm leaving this afternoon, and made quick video of some of the gear I'm packing. Might help others, and if there is anything I didn't think of please let me know... See you all at OSH!!!!




With your airplane, you'll want to land 36 for the shortest taxi to Vintage, unless the wind is big.

MTV


I agree, but ATC doesn't always give pilots a choice. If you have a choice of runway, and if you want to be in Vintage, 36 (or 18) works well. That's the one time you will talk on the radio, if ATC asks you which runway you prefer. That'll be the FISKE controllers that ask--otherwise they'll just tell you which one you're going to get, depending on traffic needs.

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Freaked over the great lakes ? Life jacket ?

Not to hijack but There is always Osh talk about crossing the lakes. Its all good advise,altitude etc but..
When we spend hundreds of hours over trees and rocks with no landing options, why worry about a short crossing ?
It helps to know the maint history and your plane.
Take care, Tail Winds to you
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Re: Freaked over the great lakes ? Life jacket ?

winger wrote:Not to hijack but There is always Osh talk about crossing the lakes. Its all good advise,altitude etc but..
When we spend hundreds of hours over trees and rocks with no landing options, why worry about a short crossing ?
It helps to know the maint history and your plane.
Take care, Tail Winds to you


Not to be too argumentative, but there's a difference between flying over relatively short stretches of semi wilderness that are devoid of landing options, and over 50 miles of water that is devoid of landing options.

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Re: Freaked over the great lakes ? Life jacket ?

winger wrote:Not to hijack but There is always Osh talk about crossing the lakes. Its all good advise,altitude etc but..
When we spend hundreds of hours over trees and rocks with no landing options, why worry about a short crossing ?
It helps to know the maint history and your plane.
Take care, Tail Winds to you



Says the man with floats on his plane! :D

I flew over the lake in a SEL aircraft to/from EAA this year. Wore a manually inflatable PFD with a PLB tied inside the pocket, did serious pre-flights and flew from cargo ship to cargo ship, when able. Would I do it again? Yes, if it was during the day and middle-end of summer...
Did I enjoy it? No.
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