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Re: Project: Cessna 170B

Way to keep plugging away Rob! Won't be long now.
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Seat rails installed
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Looking good, I know how fun those are..
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The gold rails look cool against the light grey.
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Tom wrote:Looking good, I know how fun those are..


Thanks, now both my forearms are bruised and have red marks from reaching through the inspection holes as far as I can to buck the rivets.
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Tom wrote:Looking good, I know how fun those are..


Thanks, now both my forearms are bruised and have red marks from reaching through the inspection holes as far as I can to buck the rivets.


No pain no gain!
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Re: Project: Cessna 170B

Gold plated seat rails!
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robw56 wrote:
Tom wrote:Looking good, I know how fun those are..


Thanks, now both my forearms are bruised and have red marks from reaching through the inspection holes as far as I can to buck the rivets.


That's known as "Cessna Arm" those red arcs all over one's arms. Are those macfarlane rails?
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Yes they are the McFarlane rails. I just noticed yesterday that they have 8 holes instead of 6 like the old rails, allowing for two more inches of legroom, which will be nice. There's also a ninth hole further back that will allow the seat to be locked in place half way back on the rail.
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I painted my rudder pedals with Rustoleum truck bed liner.

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That's a cool finish. Is it grippy?
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Looks good!
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Zzz wrote:That's a cool finish. Is it grippy?


The texture is similar to sandpaper. I was hoping it would be a little more course but I'm happy with the results. Hopefully it will prevent wet shoes from slipping on the rudder pedals.
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The UPS man brought presents today :D
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Sweet!

What do those weigh?
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CamTom12 wrote:Sweet!

What do those weigh?


The seats them selves weigh 6.5lbs per side, then there's the rails and mounting hardware which add up. Something over 20lbs total, I'll try to get everything on the scales and record an actual weight before I install them.
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Dang, I wouldn't have guessed half that. Must be some legit mounting hardware.
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Re: Project: Cessna 170B

Here is what Greg posted back in December, it looks like 18.3lbs for the whole set and 24.4lbs with upholstery.

bigrenna wrote:For those of you who have never seen the Atlee Dodge seat install, here is the breakdown: Two seats, four Ancra tracks (one floor, one sidewall) two angle backing brackets (under the floor to support the floor tracks) four gussets (support the ends of the sidewall track) four Ancra quick release rings, fastners/washers/nuts, solid and 16 cherymax rivets. Kit also has seatbelt ends that are not used if you order BAS/AmSafe belts.

So, what does one side of the Atlee install weight?

(note: weights gathered in haste with angry girlfriend outside hanger door sitting in running pick-up truck wondering why she is at the airport on Christmas day rather than being on-time for family meal)

Ancra side track, gussets, floor track + backing angle - 2.2lbs
Ancra quick release rings (2) - 0.32lbs
Siderail center support bracket (painted) - 0.2 lbs
Atlee Dodge jump seat (powdercoated, foot fittings installed) - 6.19lbs
fasteners, washers, nylocks, solid rivets, cherymax - 0.22 lbs
Aviation Creations Upholstery (incl leather, 1" hi-density foam, extra back flap to slide onto seat and all velcro) - 3.05 lbs

Total weight for single un-upholstered - 9.13 lbs.
Total weight for single upholstered - 12.18

Left and right seat install incl leather upholstery - Aprox 24.4

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I got the floor rails installed for the Atlee Dodge jump seats last night. Hopefully I'll have the side rails installed tonight.

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robw56 wrote:Here is what Greg posted back in December, it looks like 18.3lbs for the whole set and 24.4lbs with upholstery.

Yup, similar numbers with mine. In my case, my Cessna rear bench seat weighed in at just about 25 lbs, so with two Atlees installed there's really no appreciable weight difference. The downside to the Atlee weight is that the rails and side brackets are permanent, even if you have the seats out, you're still carrying that weight in the plane. The silver lining is that the floor rails in particular add a lot of reinforcement to the floor, especially in a 170B. I envision running mine with one Atlee seat much of the time, which should be a big gain in versatility.
I think you'll love them Rob. Good call to add them.

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