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Suggestions for a Turbine Back Country

Ah. May be. It does have the "smile."
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I would take the Sherpa over the Pilatas Porter...if given to me. :D CompAir looks pretty good too thoughImage
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There's a CompAir for sale on Barnstormers right now. Here's your chance :wink: "Only" a -7 though.
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yes that helio has the garrett. but there are a couple other helios that are powered by allisons. The plane that had one that went down south is back here in the usa. it was a H-395.

Pima county sheriffs department fly two helio couriers with allison b-17c or f s I can't remember
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LT4247 wrote:I thought Mr. Wieman sold the turbine at OshKosh....maybe not.
Fuel burn rate at cruise on that turbine is 21-23 gph if you don't get too agressive with it. Which is hard to do!! :D


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That plane is based in Alpine Wy, about 35 miles from me. The owner, Bill Wieman is one class act and has more KOOL toys then any human should be allowed to have. IT is the only plane that could probably beat me in a short take off contest. Fuel burn in the turbine is quite high. If I remember correctly he plans for a fuel stop every 55 minutes. [-o< :roll:

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He might have sold it as I have not seen it lately. It's good when my biggest competition is not around... =P~ =D> [-o< [-o< [-X
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Well...


...ya gotta dream. Only need about a half million bucks and a $500.00 per hour to own/operate them. But hey....I am just a jealous poor boy. Please....keep on dreaming for me! 8)

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There is a Turbine powered Helio at Oconee Airport near Seneca, South Carolina that I just saw last week. I have seen it sitting there for the past few years. Anyone happen to know if the owner is a poster here? Everytime I go there I drool over it and dream of winning the lottery.
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Perry told me that the Helio Stallion(turbine Helio) was by far the most dangerous AND difficult to fly airplane he's ever flown/owned. Jim has owned a lot of crazy airplanes so I think that statement has some weight.


Otters have been converted to at least three different turbines, Vazar did the PT-6, both -135 and -34, and Viking did a one off -34. Texas Turbines does a Garret(900 horses!!!) and some outfit I don't know has done a Walter conversion. Never heard of an Allison (now Rolls Royce) and @ 450 hp I don't see it happening.

I would vote for an otter, on floats it's a remarkable airplane, must be a real hoot on wheels!

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Does anyone know the thinking behind that large, squared angled hinge, two-stage rudder on the Pilatus Porter? I mean, the Porter is a dream for sure, but that squared-off rudder seems a bit lacking in the aerodynamic flow...if ya know what I mean.
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Halestorm wrote:Perry told me that the Helio Stallion(turbine Helio) was by far the most dangerous AND difficult to fly airplane he's ever flown/owned. Jim has owned a lot of crazy airplanes so I think that statement has some weight.


Otters have been converted to at least three different turbines, Vazar did the PT-6, both -135 and -34, and Viking did a one off -34. Texas Turbines does a Garret(900 horses!!!) and some outfit I don't know has done a Walter conversion. Never heard of an Allison (now Rolls Royce) and @ 450 hp I don't see it happening.

I would vote for an otter, on floats it's a remarkable airplane, must be a real hoot on wheels!

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yes they are suppose very unstable. But we are talking about helio couriers that have a turbo prop up front. I'll try to get some pics
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madpilot wrote:The k650t Sherpa is exactly what I want. Anything else out there similar?



Since size, mission, and daydreaming vs. reality were not mentioned in your initial post, this thread has pretty much covered all angles.

Now that you are putting in some parameters, I would take a look at a turbo beaver, perhaps a -34 powered Viking... or the Kodiak someone posted. ya, they ain't a Sherpa, but since you can't just go out and buy a Sherpa the thought does have merit...

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Now if zane or matt will get to work approving my pics of turbo couriers we will have that tonight! :D :D
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the porter comes close.
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Unless these turbo couriers have bewbers or a honey pot, you're approved.

Is there something I'm missing? :?
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Just for comic relief!! :lol: :lol:
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Ridge Runner,
I think the following is true. The Porter's vertical and rudder are the same exact piece each side of the horizontal and elevator. It makes a lot of sense from a production stand point.
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kneel wrote:Ridge Runner,
I think the following is true. The Porter's vertical and rudder are the same exact piece each side of the horizontal and elevator. It makes a lot of sense from a production stand point.


That's an interesting observation. You're saying the vertical stab + rudder is essentially a horz stab + elevator turned on end?
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Dang cstolaircraft, that photo must be from a while back. It is a very nice looking plane now. I had some pictures of it but unfortunately a few months ago my hard drive went tits up and I lost all my photos. It is gloss black now.
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I think it was from the 80s.

Gloss back would look good.
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