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2012 Annual Summer Fly-in at Johnson Creek, ID

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260Driver wrote:1 pax...I'll take a look at the route and maybe we could meet up on the way?


That would be awesome. I'll PM you some details. Right now, I think its just us that are leaving AM of the 19th from our area. Some LSA's may be leaving Columbia the 19th, but they are stopping on the way to camp.
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Green Hornet wrote:The "Events Calendar" on the IAA web site http://idahoaviation.com/, has posted the event as follows:
06/22/2012
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Johnson Creek (3U2). Everyone welcome. Potluck Barbecue Saturday night. Contact Bryan Painter at 916-622-2593 or http://www.backcountrypilot.org
News letter no, Web site yes


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Just get me a date when we should be there "Hornets let's crankem up" -coming up on fox mike. Cycle c1611's check 122.9 for flight --- I'm 80% on this one -like to combine several events at approx.same time.

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Already June 10th, time to start thinking about packing. Should be here before we know it.
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mountainmatt wrote:Already June 10th, time to start thinking about packing. Should be here before we know it.

I figure to be setting up camp on the 18th Thursday the 21st will fly back to Troutdale get my boy and come right back. That will take a bit longer on 35s. 15 minutes each way

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mountainmatt wrote:Already June 10th, time to start thinking about packing. Should be here before we know it.


I've already got all my gear on a tarp in the hangar and starting to think what what I need to NOT bring. I'm such an overpacker.
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mountainmatt wrote:Already June 10th, time to start thinking about packing. Should be here before we know it.


I've already got all my gear on a tarp in the hangar and starting to think what what I need to NOT bring. I'm such an overpacker.


Well, I should have had my thinking cap on long time ago. But, I will be more than willing to help out if I can. I can load up my pick up with chairs (I don't have many, but maybe somebody in the Boise area can lend some out??), coolers, an EzUp canopy (10'x15' with a blue Yamaha Racing top 8) ), and anything else you all can think of. I'm sure I can round up a trailer from somebody in the Boise area, too?? If so, we can stock it with some drinks (water, soda, beer, etc??) and non-perishable food items.

I can drive my pick up to JC next weekend or by Monday June 18. I will just need a ride back to Emmett by Monday evening June 18. I can then find a way back to JC the week after the fly in to pick up my rig.

Let me know if there's anything I can help with this week. I'm here in Idaho till the 19th.
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I assume that we will have the POTLUCK on Saturday as we have in the past.

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flyer wrote:I assume that we will have the POTLUCK on Saturday as we have in the past.

Dick


Yes, the pot-luck is still on Saturday night and will start around 6pm.

Also, here is a good story from a super cub brethren about some of the dangers at JC. (I am not poking fun of SteveE, I too have hit wake turbulence upon taking off in formation and it's scary stuff). Good information about never giving up and flying the plane to the very end.

SteveE @ SC.org wrote:This would be a good time for a safety tip from Steve Eaton,,, kinda of an oxymoron don't you think? This was a real live experience at Johnson Creek a few years ago.... concerning Wake Turbulence.. I relate this story as a learning experience for pilots just going to JC,, and as a reminder for those who have been there. Many of you witnessed the event,, and got a little exercise to boot.. RUNNIN!!

I was going to take off in a 2 ship with a buddy of mine. He was in front and I was behind and to the left of him. As you know, there is not much room width wise because of all the planes backed up in parking down the runway. It was early morning, cool temps, no wind. We thundered down the runway, a great photo op.... I was going to take off the ground first, get above his wake and stay above him all the way out.... Well,,,, that didn't happen, he popped up first, me second, with a notch of flaps. I got, oh say, about 20 feet in the air and hit his wake, completely,, I MEAN COMPLETELY, lost the lift in my right wing. The wing dropped and the plane started headin for the trees and all the planes parked there. Some thought I was goofin off,, my pants knew otherwise. I immediately pulled off the power, I did not want to get to the planes and trees any faster than I could, immediately put everything Left,, ailerons, rudder,,(damn long flap handle, needed one of those EZ flap handle deals) my leg went over the flap handle and my toes were pushing the left rudder.... right wing tip was about a foot off the ground at this time... people were still RUNNIN.. I could see this out of my peripheral vision,, and a line of planes that were going to get smashed...

Now, at this point you do not think about what is going to happen,,, you fly,,, and I mean fly by the seat of your every being, do what ever it takes to keep going, do not give up. I had no time to be sceered,, you fly.

So, with control saying go LEFT, and about 20 feet from the parked planes, my plane ever so gently started to lift the right wing, left wing going down,, by this time I was close to the ground,, If I would have landed,, it would have been bad. With the plane starting to go left, I POURED on the power, probably a reason my throttle cable was stressed,,, So now I am heading left,, gained a few feet in altitude,,still hitting wake turbulence,, and now all the people were running on the left side of the runway,, they are now unwilling participants as well.. This feels like flying in a giant straw, no way out except down the tunnel.. With the plane heading left,, I now put in full right controls, power off to keep from getting to the parked planes any quicker... The plane responds ever so gently,, full power, now I am headed right,,, people RUNNIN again,,, full left controls,, by this time, the plane in front of me, oblivious to what is happenin,, except he is wondering why people are RUNNIN.,,, is now far enough down the runway I no longer hit his wake. My S turn flyin slowly recedes and I continue on my flight,, then I breath... and get asked 900 questions when I get back..

So, here is what happened,, I did not get airborne soon enough, hit wake turbulence and just about lost it.. What kept the plane flying when it shouldn't? It is my utmost belief that the Thrustline mod saved my ass, it kept the plane flying when it otherwise would not.. period... Well,, maybe the 180 horses helped too,, and God likes Okies.

Another incident with another buddy... He took off loaded heavy, cool morning air, no wind.. took off normal, airborne, slid right over the trees like you are supposed to do,,, caught a cool air downdraft and before he could get out of it, his tires started rolling again,, hitting the tops of the pine trees... Got to the fuel stop, changed his pants,, and continued on his way... DON'T Stop flyin,,, never give up..

I bring this story up because I saw it recently at Gastons/ OK18 flyin. Planes were lined right up behind each other,, taking off,, down a runway lined on both sides with trees.. I cringed and fortunately nothing happened. They could get over the trees and have an out. You cant do that at JC,, the trees are very tall and mountains on both side..

SO,, here is my advice for all,, take it or leave it.. Be careful with the wake turbulence on all the mountain strips, I have felt it when I have taken off after the plane is a half mile away. The cool morning air sinks,, be aware,, Lean it out on takeoff a little,, gain all the power you can before you need all you got....Give everybody room,, there is no hurry.. Be Safe.. I learned a huge lesson almost the hard way and I just wanted to pass it on so others may learn..

Ya' all have fun..

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Re: 2012 Annual Summer Fly-in at Johnson Creek, ID

In case any of you will be using Caldwell (KEUL) next week. Just an FYI. I would assume there will be a NOTAM, too.

Caldwell Industrial Airport Users:

You may have noticed that there is commercial construction activity on Skyway Street -- approximately 1/4 mile east of the Flying J complex -- a new 80,000 sq. ft. manufacturing facility.

Next week (June 18-22) they will be setting various pieces and parts of the new building using a crane that will stand approximately 80 feet in the air. It will be a little over 1/3 of a mile off the extended runway centerline and well below our FAA safety surfaces. I expect that the crane will not be lighted at night, but will remain erect.

This message is provided to advise you of an activity going on in the vicinity of the airport that's somewhat out of the ordinary. The construction and crane should be of no impact to any of the normal aerial activities at our airport. [Valley Air @ Hubler Field has been given this same info]

Please contact Rob Oates if you have any questions about this announcement.



Rob Oates, Airport Manager
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Davis and I were talking this morning about getting our gear together for the trip. We will be arriving Wednesday by noon. Looking forward to seeing you all.
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Re: 2012 Annual Summer Fly-in at Johnson Creek, ID

glad u did that MMatt...JC can be different for sure, kinda has its own wx...take ur time departing, and arriving...departing to the north is ALWAYS best, even with a slight tail-wind...dont ask me how i know, but i know...!
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For those that were there on Saturday night last year you probably heard my cousin Matt Potratz speak. He will be there again on Saturday night to give an awesome presentation about the proper response to adversity. For more on his story check out www.mattpotratz.com.
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Re: 2012 Annual Summer Fly-in at Johnson Creek, ID

New student pilot here and I am interested in attending this event. I dont have a seat available for me at this time to fly in, so was thinking about actually driving to the event (from Boise). So, first question is, I assume that non-plane flying guests are welcome? Second question is where can I go to find or who can I talk to about finding an available seat to tag along?

Also, if I do end up attending, do I need to register? Is there anything I need to bring along (I have seen references to some sort of potluck)?

Thanks!
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I'm out for 2012. I'll be sending some remaining t-shirt stock and raffle items over with someone from the PDX area. I will miss visiting with everyone, but it's just not in the cards this year. Deadstick Steve's pockets are ringing too loudly in my ears.

Have fun guys/gals, and be safe.

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I'm indisposed as well - have fun, be safe, looking forward to the pics! Best wishes for perfect wx
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clenaghen wrote:New student pilot here and I am interested in attending this event. I dont have a seat available for me at this time to fly in, so was thinking about actually driving to the event (from Boise). So, first question is, I assume that non-plane flying guests are welcome? Second question is where can I go to find or who can I talk to about finding an available seat to tag along?

Also, if I do end up attending, do I need to register? Is there anything I need to bring along (I have seen references to some sort of potluck)?

Thanks!
Chris Lenaghen


Welcome Chris!

I assume Non-Flyers are more than welcome. I've driven in the last two years. You can park in the parking lot on the southend of the runway. You can set up camp near the parking lot or you have to carry your gear closer to where everybody else is camping. I don't believe the caretakers will let you drive all the way into the camping area. I did a couple of times. But got a little chewed for it.

I too will not make the BCP Fly In. But as of right now, I plan to go up to JC this Thursday and leave Sat. morning. Maybe I'll see a few of you there on Friday?? I'm probably going to be hanging out mostly with Shaun from Performance Air, the Dory's and some other Boise area flyers. Should be fun, too.
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Hi Guys-

I was really looking forward to meeting everyone this year at the JC fly-in but I am still stranded with my job in Oak Ridge, TN. Hopefully someday I can get out of the nuke business :D

Have fun and be safe =D>
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I see it is the time for who can't make it to 'crap out' on the party.
I would say it is to 'save the strip' from the ravages of use...... :lol:
But actually a family wedding has ended up being a conflict. :roll: #-o :(

I hate to miss it-and I hate to say that usual 'next year' BS, but that is where I am at. :(
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Re: 2012 Annual Summer Fly-in at Johnson Creek, ID

Jeanine, Denise, Michelle, and Sarah, arrived today. Denise said about 15 folks there tonight. I'm sure more tomorrow for the Super Cub weekend. They'll be there for both weeks. I'll hopefully be there for friday and saturday nite both weeks.

Looking forward to seeing everyone!!!

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Re: 2012 Annual Summer Fly-in at Johnson Creek, ID

good grief, all i see is a better chance to win kevins generous donation of the heli trip in AK...why dont more of u bail....!?
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