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Thanks Paul
Nice summary/clarification/compilation
The only thing I would add tothat was the Fri. nite dinner at Mack, The feeding will be roughly 4-6 so that there is plenty of time to get back to Caveman before dark thirty. I think it is about a 50 mi flight in a straight line, but much more enjoyable, atleast for me, to make an early enening flight following the river. Probly closer to 45/60 min depending on speed.
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No Problem Gary I had to pull it all together for my wife who has decided to join me. Any Cave Rooms left ? If not not worry she is an experienced camper.

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Gary, where would you recommend for remote camping in the area if we get down there before Friday? I am hoping to get out and explore for a couple days before and want to do some hiking as well as vistit some of the less traveled areas.

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hey Brent
probly my favorite in the area is Nokai Dome. But it's a little further south. Just north of Monument Valley, which haas its advantages(gas/food,scenicc flights over Lake Powell, San Juan River. Mon. Valley). Cal-Black.Gouldings/Mexican Hat etc. North of there, Hidden Splendor and Mexian Mtn are real nice. Both have water not too far away/ Mex. Mtn has some petroglyphs to check out.
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Gary,
Thanks! I have been going through Fly Utah but it is nice to have a locals input.

Looking forward to it.
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Re: Caveman Fly In 2012

Gateway/Hubbard is also another really cool spot I'm always pushin. BLM strip(Hubbard 9CO3, ~4500') is right next to a real neat resort with great restaurant, old car museum, bike and raft rental, hiking, four wheeler??. Also another nice strip un top of the Mesa just SW of there(Dololres Point ~7K'). You can camp on either strip. One next to great ammenities, the other feels pretty remote.
I feel Gateway is something you should defineately check out while in the area, but pretty easy to do while planning something at Mack Mesa if you just want a quick overview.
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Idahomauledriver wrote:Yo Gary,

First of all thanks again for organizing Caveman this year ( even without your plane in service !!!! ) last year it was a great event and I am really looking forward to it this year. As a 1 year veteran and still primarily a lurker compared to most people on this forum let me take a stab and try and address some of the questions from the first timers since most of them are still fresh in my mind.

Gary please do not hesitate to correct me if I have misunderstood your earlier posts or if things have changed.

First accommodations. Most people tent camp with their airplane. You will be camping on dry dirt and should bring what you need to make you comfortable IE sleeping bag rated to the temps, chairs, tables, stoves,coolers etc that you normally use when flying/camping in the backcountry. Caveman Ranch has some very unique rooms that are really caves and a magnificent lodge where there will be group meals, great bonfires, endless games of hearts, a fantastic outdoor seating area to meet and greet, share the bonfire, tell lies and spend hours gazing at the stars. A few pilots were gazing all night so to speak after enjoying their margaritas. I believe both the rooms and the lodge offer access to a common shower/bathroom area.

Second food. It looks like there will be a cooked breakfast available at Caveman on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, a group dinner available a Mack Mesa on Friday night, and a dinner at Caveman lodge Saturday night. All of these are great and generally are available for a fee or a donation. There are several places nearby that you can fly to for nice meals and Gary is very generous in providing navigation tips on how to get there and sometimes there is a group heading there to fly with.

Third flying. There are numerous interesting and wonderful strips to fly into for experienced backcountry pilots in the area. As mentioned previously Galens Fly Utah is a great source and I have found that the Utah Supplemental World Aeronautical Chart is a way to get an overall picture of the area . Check the website http://www.flyidaho.com and I believe there is one posted on the wall of the lodge. Last years poker run was a blast and Gary designed it so newbies could get a real taste of the area. I find it handy to top off my fuel before I land at Caveman to give me the most flexibility ( Mack or Moab are possible choices ) and the Caveman strip is relatively benign if you are going in heavy as long as you have prior backcountry dirt experience. Although all landings will be severely rated by the pilots who have arrived previously and are sitting on the deck hydrating to replace the fluids lost on the lengthy flight, generally with margaritas.

All in all it is a great flyin with numerous opportunities to interact with other BCPers who have been grounded by the long winter, organized by Gary who is a generous with his knowledge of the area and time and hosted by Rod and his clan at their wonderful unique resort. :D

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Re: Caveman Fly In 2012

just for info sake... I"ll be leaving San Diego Area on Thurs AM between 6 and 7 weather permitting. I'll make my first gas stop at Valle just south of Grand Canyon, second at Cal Black only cause I want gas to fly around with on Friday..I'll monitor 122.9 and 122.75 on the way so if anyone calls Iceman I'll answer if I hear you....see ya all there.. fly safe and if anyone else knows about it I want a picture of me standing next to Butch Cassidy's name carved into the sandstone at Robbers Roost spring if it's at all a doable hike....
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Did you ever go to the museum at Valle?
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Checkit out while you are there. Pretty cool. Probly take an hour or so.
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I'll see when I get there. This week we're getting overcast for the entire day and no clearing.... Hopefully that won't be the case next week, which will allow me to get over the mountains early...
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Hi Gary et al,

Been lurking BCP off and on for awhile, and I know I've met a few of you in Idaho over the last several years, so I figured it's time to "spread my wings" and do some red rock flying. I plan to be at Caveman on Friday camping under the wing! :D Might have one join me in my 'Hawk and I'm trying to talk a friend into coming over in his Sportsman.

I will email and snail mail the waiver.

Looking forward to the first camping trip of the year!

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10 day forcast lookin pretty good sofar
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[quote="shortfielder"]10 day forcast lookin pretty good
Just finished a shot of Makers Mark and on Marg number 2 I am practicing for next week!!!
EEEE Hawwww
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Way to Rob
Love your enthusiasm.
You want to come down early and put up some windsocks?
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The forecast is showing 87 degrees for Friday the 4th in Moab. It's gonna be hot! Not gonna be good for DA.
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shortfielder wrote:10 day forcast lookin pretty good
Just finished a shot of Makers Mark and on Marg number 2 I am practicing for next week!!!
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robw56 wrote:The forecast is showing 87 degrees for Friday the 4th in Moab. It's gonna be hot! Not gonna be good for DA.

It is hot out there already. We aren't going again this weekend, but it took some real patience to finally break ground on an afternoon departure at Dolores.
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Gary, I am planning on camping under the wing Friday night, arriving before noon on Friday. If there is anything needing to be finished up I am willing to help in any way I can. Keeping my fingers crossed for good wx.
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