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Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

You have to "drill down" a bit, under transportation, airplane then Cessna 170 and you will get to the posting
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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

iiAtlas wrote:
asa wrote:https://alaskaslist.com/-3/posts/10_Transportation/59_Aircraft/546089_1955_Cessna_170B.html


Link looks dead but great website, thank you!


Hmm, wasn't dead for me. It's not 180 HP but try looking for ad 538720
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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

WWhunter wrote:
iiAtlas wrote:
asa wrote:https://alaskaslist.com/-3/posts/10_Transportation/59_Aircraft/546089_1955_Cessna_170B.html


Link looks dead but great website, thank you!


Hmm, wasn't dead for me. It's not 180 HP but try looking for ad 538720



That's actually not it, the one I was posting was apparently removed (ad 546089). It is not the other 1955 170B one on there. This one was posted about 30 mins before I shared the link and was very nice for about $37k. Looked like a good deal. Maybe someone scooped it up.

The other one on there (ad 538720, https://alaskaslist.com/-3/posts/10_Tra ... _170B.html) has been up on AL for a long long time intermittently.

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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

When I was 180 shopping some years ago, I was entirely focused on early models for weight, perceived cost and forward visibility.

A nice 67 H model came up on TAP with a straight and clean airframe and a mid time engine for less than most 50s models were going for.

I read everything that I could find on the internet about the different 180 models, and decided that these planes deliver on a sweet spot for payload, range, panel real estate (for IFR goodies) and cabin volume. The mid sixties models are typically about 75-100 pounds heavier than the 50s models, but the GW is 250 pounds more than the early ships. They share most structural airframe components with the 185, so for that extra weight, you get considerably more strength. This is nice for peace of mind if things get a little rowdy in the air or on the ground.

They are all great planes, but if I were shopping for early models without good results, I wouldn't hesitate to jump on a nice H model that presented itself.
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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

Scolopax wrote:When I was 180 shopping some years ago, I was entirely focused on early models for weight, perceived cost and forward visibility.

A nice 67 H model came up on TAP with a straight and clean airframe and a mid time engine for less than most 50s models were going for.

I read everything that I could find on the internet about the different 180 models, and decided that these planes deliver on a sweet spot for payload, range, panel real estate (for IFR goodies) and cabin volume. The mid sixties models are typically about 75-100 pounds heavier than the 50s models, but the GW is 250 pounds more than the early ships. They share most structural airframe components with the 185, so for that extra weight, you get considerably more strength. This is nice for peace of mind if things get a little rowdy in the air or on the ground.

They are all great planes, but if I were shopping for early models without good results, I wouldn't hesitate to jump on a nice H model that presented itself.


Ditto, the 180 I used to own is a 66 H model, and to me, the advantages of the G and H models (bigger fuel tanks, higher gw, and especially center stack radios) far outweigh the advantages of the very early 180s.

And, with some work, you can probably lighten up a G or H model quite a bit.

Just look at the instrument panels in the early vs late airplanes, and consider fuel. That should tell you all you need to know.

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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

Best deal going is the early 185 with an IO-470.
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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

Still not a round tail; I'm starting to get a little concerned for you guys, round tails get the looks ya know !!!!
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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

No matter what you've been told here, you still need to fly the various candidates and decide for yourself. What matters is what you want, not what others think you want. I love my 180hp 170 because it's so much fun to fly and easy to own. I loved my 182 and my T210 because they were unbelievably capable. The good thing is that you get to choose, though the market may help you decide. Three of the four airplanes I've owned were lucky finds, not necessarily the exact thing I thought I was looking for.
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After a really extensive search, we were able to find him a really nice 180H in CA. Worked on it a bunch there getting it squared away and adding some goodies: Dessers, hanging an MT, and getting her back in annual, then ferrying her back east last week. Of all the birds I have looked at, this is the cleanest 180 I have seen. (and an "H" to boot!) Bone bone stock bought from a 40 year owner. Really a unicorn find.

Just weighed it the other day and she came in at 1656. For reference, the stock 170B I bought this spring weighed 1410lbs. In contrast, my 180H (with all the mods and before the big motor and latest mods) weighs just over 1800. It's VFR with the short legs, but this is a really light bird! And fast too! 165mph indicated all day long.

170Bs are great for sure, but no way can it touch what you get in a H model 180. LOL

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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

That owner took nice care of that bird. Great find and helping it find a new happy home Greg.
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Re: Considering a 170B project... (w/ 180hp & more)

Bigrenna wrote:After a really extensive search, we were able to find him a really nice 180H in CA. Worked on it a bunch there getting it squared away and adding some goodies: Dessers, hanging an MT, and getting her back in annual, then ferrying her back east last week. Of all the birds I have looked at, this is the cleanest 180 I have seen. (and an "H" to boot!) Bone bone stock bought from a 40 year owner. Really a unicorn find.

Just weighed it the other day and she came in at 1656. For reference, the stock 170B I bought this spring weighed 1410lbs. In contrast, my 180H (with all the mods and before the big motor and latest mods) weighs just over 1800. It's VFR with the short legs, but this is a really light bird! And fast too! 165mph indicated all day long.

170Bs are great for sure, but no way can it touch what you get in a H model 180. LOL

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That's an AWESOME looking ride Greg! Congrats!
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