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Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:40 am

High Sierra Fly-in, INFO - 2014

Just a post to have here on the front page for folks looking for info this year. This will be updated as we draw closer.

Lots going on this year with a movie night, catered BBQ Friday and Saturday night, Pumpkin drops, Skydivers and explosives...as well as a lot of various fly out options for all abilities...small tires are fine.

2 months out. Please make certain to send a PM to me or sign up in the "who is coming" section on the events page. We also have a full moon this year!

http://www.backcountrypilot.org/community/events/viewevent/101-high-sierra-fly-in-5th-annual-october-10th-11th-12th-2014

Looking forward to seeing you in the desert...

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Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:54 am

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

Gahhh, would love to make it this year, can't believe it's already the 5th one.

I'm 50/50 at this point, will know more as the date gets closer.
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Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:22 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

Dumb question, where is it, obviously in the desert somewhere. Identifier/lat-long???
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:32 am

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

It's on Julian Lane, about 10 miles west of Wabuska. :D

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Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:35 am

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

Here is the map from last year. Image
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:55 am

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

Thanks for posting that RWM-

For your planning purposes, these are exact same details for this years fly-in only we will be parking on the opposite end of the lake bed. Seems like we are always getting a slight east wind and that will push the dust away from the parked aircraft, etc. I will be posting updated details like this is in the next few weeks.

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Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:47 am

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

aktahoe1 wrote:Thanks for posting that RWM-

For your planning purposes, these are exact same details for this years fly-in only we will be parking on the opposite end of the lake bed. Seems like we are always getting a slight east wind and that will push the dust away from the parked aircraft, etc. I will be posting updated details like this is in the next few weeks.

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Great idea on parking out of the dust!!
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:47 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

RWM wrote:Here is the map from last year. Image


I'm trying to run a few performance numbers and was hoping you could help me with this non-published runway.

Are there any obstacles at the end of the runway (rocks, hills, slopes), or is it flat for miles?

What's the typical highest DA or temperature you will see this time of the year for morning departures?
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:47 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

idair wrote:
RWM wrote:Here is the map from last year. Image


I'm trying to run a few performance numbers and was hoping you could help me with this non-published runway.

Are there any obstacles at the end of the runway (rocks, hills, slopes), or is it flat at least 1000' off the end of the e-w runway? I assume winds typically favor this one?

What's the airport elevation?

What's the typical highest DA or temperature you will see this time of the year for morning departures?

Additionally, if someone has a PDF/not so compressed JPG of the map I would appreciate it. I can read most things, but not everything on it.
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:56 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

There is a berm that crosses the departure end of the west rwy / approach end of east rwy. It would ruin your day. Can't remember for sure but I think it's a little over 4k feet msl.
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:57 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

Taking off to the east, the terrain rises slightly before dropping off, if I remember right. The rising part I remember for sure! I had never heard a length, but Flynengineer told me in June it was 1,300'. I used most of it getting out of there. As for DAs, I don't remember. Seems like we were in the 70s for temps.
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:15 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

The runway is right at 1300' or so with terrain rising very slightly to the east and then dropping off.. We have always landed to the east. There is also about 200 feet of over-run but know-one has ever needed it. The 2-3 foot berm at the west end is marked and the runway itself is also marked with orange cones. You will see the little berm on approach as its marked and lit up. The threshold is about 20' or so beyond the berm giving you a full length to the runway we use. I normally touch down 100' or so past the berm with ample room to stop and maneuver. This years parking and event will be down at the east end so your roll out will take you down to were you need to be eliminating a lot of extra back taxing. When departing you will have plenty of taxi time to warm up and then run up at the departure end. Trying to remember the 5 "P's" this year...Prior planning prevents a poor performance... #-o

I know Bryan is working on a pilot brief like the one above from last year. Please notice traffic freqs, patterns, parking areas etc. We will also have someone on the ground with a radio at all times. I was just out there the other day and the lake bed is in great shape.

Here is a doc that I have posted around in a few places.

Feel free to PM me with any additional questions, info etc. Remember this is a camping event and we are 2 weeks earlier this year. October is cooler than that of summer but it can still be warm. Mid 60's to mid 70's is realistic. Nights can get chilly but not freezing however two years ago we had a frost over night. It makes for great flying conditions.

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Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:02 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

Here is the 2014 5th Annual High Sierra Fly-in Kneeboard document so that you can print it and use it!
Note if you come to the event remember these "codes"
Fingers = 123.45
Fingers plus = 123.475
Jumbo = 127.475

Enjoy!!
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:13 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

Yahoo! Thanks Brian! Man, I can't wait to attend this flyin again!
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:24 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

This may be a dumb question, but are the east ans west mixed up on the new poster Brian? It seems backwards compared to last years drawing of east and west.
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:32 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

A1Skinner wrote:This may be a dumb question, but are the east ans west mixed up on the new poster Brian? It seems backwards compared to last years drawing of east and west.


It is backwards, unless you look at it as it's marking the beginning of the "East" runway. Maybe you need to fix it to clarify things a bit for those that haven't been Bryan. Looks good otherwise!
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robw56 wrote:
A1Skinner wrote:This may be a dumb question, but are the east ans west mixed up on the new poster Brian? It seems backwards compared to last years drawing of east and west.


It is backwards, unless you look at it as it's marking the beginning of the "East" runway. Maybe you need to fix it to clarify things a bit for those that haven't been Bryan. Looks good otherwise!


Rob is correct I meant it as if landing east/ west. I'll fix it tomorrow it's late! On another note.

Please take this note... Rob thank you for getting it correct!

Everyone, y'all have known me for years....so get it right dammit! :evil: [-X

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Haha thanks! That is all...but seriously! :D :shock:
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:10 pm

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

piperpainter wrote:Here is the 2014 5th Annual High Sierra Fly-in Kneeboard document so that you can print it and use it!
Note if you come to the event remember these "codes"
Fingers = 123.45
Fingers plus = 123.475
Jumbo = 127.475

Enjoy!!
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Hmmm... not seeing the kneeboard document..?
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:19 am

Re: 5th Annual High SIerra Fly-in Oct 10-12, 2014

piperpainter wrote:
robw56 wrote:
A1Skinner wrote:This may be a dumb question, but are the east ans west mixed up on the new poster Brian? It seems backwards compared to last years drawing of east and west.


It is backwards, unless you look at it as it's marking the beginning of the "East" runway. Maybe you need to fix it to clarify things a bit for those that haven't been Bryan. Looks good otherwise!


Rob is correct I meant it as if landing east/ west. I'll fix it tomorrow it's late! On another note.

Please take this note... Rob thank you for getting it correct!

Everyone, y'all have known me for years....so get it right dammit! :evil: [-X

BrYan <~~~Y not i...

Haha thanks! That is all...but seriously! :D :shock:


Haha. Sorry Bryan. I won't get it wrong again.
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